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  • 8467thekraken
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    • Apr 2012
    • 720

    With a reduction of Hardy's suspension...

    ...can we expect a reduction in Bells as well?

    Would be nice to see a game or two knocked off.
  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    IIRC, hardy's suspension was based on Goodell's "floating standards of punishment system." Bell's suspension is based on language in the CBA although there does seem to be confusion under which CBA agreement he is being punished. Really apples and oranges. Besides Goodell is much more interested to make sure that Brady is available Game #1 for the TV aspects of the nationally televised game that any other player's issues.

    Besides, by reducing Hardy and maybe Bell it gives Goodell an excuse to drop Brady's punishment by showing a trend of leniency.
    Last edited by Oviedo; 07-10-2015, 03:55 PM.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • birtikidis
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4628

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      IIRC, hardy's suspension was based on Goodell's "floating standards of punishment system." Bell's suspension is based on language in the CBA although there does seem to be confusion under which CBA agreement he is being punished. Really apples and oranges. Besides Goodell is much more interested to make sure that Brady is available Game #1 for the TV aspects of the nationally televised game that any other player's issues.

      Besides, by reducing Hardy and maybe Bell it gives Goodell an excuse to drop Brady's punishment by showing a trend of leniency.
      Sadly you're probably right. Starting to dislike the NFL because of that arse.

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      • 8467thekraken
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        • Apr 2012
        • 720

        #4
        From what I understand, Goodell doesn't hear every appeal. Brady being Brady, Goodell took that one personally.

        Did he also oversee Hardy's?
        Is he presiding over Bell's?

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        • RuthlessBurgher
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          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Originally posted by 8467thekraken
          From what I understand, Goodell doesn't hear every appeal. Brady being Brady, Goodell took that one personally.

          Did he also oversee Hardy's?
          Is he presiding over Bell's?
          Harold Henderson heard Greg Hardy's appeal.

          Roger Goodell presided over Tom Brady's appeal himself.

          I have no idea who heard Le'Veon Bell's appeal (or even when it happened).
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • birtikidis
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            • May 2008
            • 4628

            #6
            I don't think Bell has had an appeal yet.

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            • Sugar
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              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #7
              Originally posted by birtikidis
              I don't think Bell has had an appeal yet.
              Does Bell even plan to appeal?

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              • BradshawsHairdresser
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                • Dec 2008
                • 7056

                #8
                Originally posted by Sugar
                Does Bell even plan to appeal?
                Yeah, that was my question. It was my understanding that he had accepted his punishment. But maybe I missed something. Maybe the players' association is appealing on his behalf.

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                • Slapstick
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sugar
                  Does Bell even plan to appeal?
                  So it would seem...

                  [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/04/09/NFL-suspends-Steelers-Le-Veon-Bell-for-3-games-pittsburgh-blount-patriots/stories/201504090177[/url]
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Oviedo
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                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    So it would seem...

                    [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/04/09/NFL-suspends-Steelers-Le-Veon-Bell-for-3-games-pittsburgh-blount-patriots/stories/201504090177[/URL]

                    Why wouldn't you appeal since Goodell is being generous to create some PR cover when he gives Brady a pass
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Why wouldn't you appeal since Goodell is being generous to create some PR cover when he gives Brady a pass
                      Hardy missed 12 games or so last year. He shouldnt have to miss 1 game IMO.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • BradshawsHairdresser
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 7056

                        #12
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Hardy missed 12 games or so last year. He shouldnt have to miss 1 game IMO.
                        I could be wrong, but I don't think he lost any wages for those games that he missed. So if they decided not to suspend him for any games this season, they'd still need to dock his paychecks mightily for awhile, IMO.

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
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                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #13
                          Goodell not aware of any Le’Veon Bell suspension appeal


                          Posted by Josh Alper on July 21, 2015, 2:53 PM EDT



                          NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made news on Tuesday when he said there was no timeline for his ruling in the appeal of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s suspension even though the appeal was heard four weeks ago and NFL rules mandate a ruling “as soon as practicable.”

                          Brady isn’t the only player currently suspended for the season-opening game between the Patriots and Steelers. Patriots running back LeGarrette Blount and Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell are both suspended for the game as well as a result of their arrests last preseason. Blount is suspended for just the opener for a marijuana possession charge while Bell is suspended for three games because he was charged with a DUI as well.


                          Bell said earlier this summer that he was appealing the league’s decision, but Goodell said Tuesday that he wasn’t aware of any appeal and that he wouldn’t have any information about it if he were because someone else is handling it.


                          “That appeal is not heard by me, I would have to get somebody else to get a timeline on that,” Goodell said, via the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.


                          Bell accepted a plea deal on the charges and the league’s drug policy calls for an automatic two-game ban for DUI infractions. That wouldn’t seem to leave Bell much room for success on appeal, which should mean a fair amount of work for DeAngelo Williams in the opener.


                          [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/21/goodell-not-aware-of-leveon-bell-suspension-appeal/[/URL]
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
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                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            NFL and NFLPA negotiating a settlement for Le’Veon Bell

                            Posted by Darin Gantt on July 28, 2015, 12:41 PM EDT

                            The NFL is apparently talking to Le’Veon Bell about shortening his suspension for his DUI and marijuana arrest.

                            Of course, doing so would shorten the lifespan of the precedent they’re trying to set.

                            According to Dan Graziano of ESPN.com, the league and the NFLPA are negotiating a settlement to reduce the Steelers running back’s suspension from three games to one or two.

                            But doing so might create more problems for a league that already has issues getting punishments to stick.

                            Two games is their new standard for DUI arrests, and they can add more if there are aggravating factors. Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith got a game above the baseline, and he crashed his car into a light pole.

                            Bell was stopped on his way to the airport last year in the preseason, and told cops he wasn’t sure why he was getting a DUI, saying: “I smoked two hours ago, I’m not high anymore.”

                            Shortening the suspension to one game would seemingly take the teeth out of their new policy on drunk driving arrests, so it’s unclear if that’s a step the league is willing to take.

                            [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/28/nfl-and-nflpa-negotiating-a-settlement-for-leveon-bell/[/URL]
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              Well, considering the infraction took place well before the NFL's "tough new rules" came into existence, perhaps that is an extenuating circumstance.
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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