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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    For Butler it's already been worth the wait

    Posted 2 hours ago

    By Mike Prisuta

    Defensive coordinator Keith Butler is excited for his new role on Tomlin's staff.

    Keith Butler has waited a long time to become an NFL defensive coordinator, but he can wait a little longer to publicly reveal what changes he intends to implement now that he’s succeeded Dick LeBeau as the coordinator of the Steelers’ defense.

    “I’ll let the Patriots figure that out when we play them,” Butler said, already eyeing the regular-season opener on Sept. 10 at New England.

    For Butler, a linebackers coach in Cleveland from 1999-2002 and with the Steelers from 2003 through last season, it’s already been worth the wait.

    As an experienced, respected assistant who had been a member of two Super Bowl-winning staffs in Pittsburgh, Butler’s name had circulated around the league in recent seasons. And discussions had taken place about his possibly accepting a promotion in Miami, Indianapolis, Arizona and Tennessee.

    But Butler made it clear upon being made available to the media after the Steelers wrapped up week three of OTAs that he never wanted to leave.

    “Even as a player when I played in Seattle, I went through a couple of strikes and at the time I always talked to a lot of Steelers players and they didn’t want to be in those strikes because of their love for the Rooneys,” Butler explained. “The Rooneys have always really kind of been the premier of the league in terms of trying to win Super Bowls.

    “To me, if you’re going to coach in this game you want to win Super Bowls. I’ve always thought this place gave me the best chance to win a Super Bowl as a coordinator. That’s one of the reasons I always stayed. The other reason is that Coach (Mike) Tomlin is a great guy to work for.”

    Tomlin was a graduate assistant in 1996 on a University of Memphis staff that included Butler as the linebackers/defensive ends/special teams coach.

    And Tomlin coached defensive backs at Arkansas State in 1998 when Butler was the defensive coordinator/linebackers coach there.

    So there’s a relationship between the two that predates Tomlin being named head coach of the Steelers in 2007, and Butler intends to take full advantage of that.

    “Oh yes, I look for his input,” Butler said. “I have known him for a long time. I know what he thinks for the most part. He worked with Tony Dungy (in Tampa). He learned a lot from Dungy. Dungy was a great coach. Coach Tomlin was a defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings. It would be foolish for me not to get advice or input from him when his expertise is defense.

    “I don’t know everything there is to know about defense. I am going to make some stupid calls out there. I hope my players can cover up for me sometimes. I would be crazy and arrogant to think I could do this without other coaches’ help.”

    [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/For-Butler-its-already-been-worth-the-wait/3eaba4b8-9525-4666-9836-78b340ddb5f3[/URL]
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #17
      Guys, the Steelers have already been running a one gap 3-4. I have no idea what people are getting all excited about.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #18
        Originally posted by birtikidis
        Whine? Really? My only complaint with DL leaving was the WAY it happened. EVERY Thread ends up with OV pissing and moaning about either DL or JJ
        And how exactly should it have happened? LeBeau tells the people running the team and who he works for what he will and will not do? Really? Let LeBeau tell Butler to just keep waiting because he wanted to stay?

        Any other coach whose unit had multiple years of decreasing performance would had been told to leave earlier.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #19
          LeBeau is not any other coach. He's special.
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • BradshawsHairdresser
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 7056

            #20
            Originally posted by Slapstick
            LeBeau is not any other coach. He's special.
            He's Tennessee's special now. It's Butler's turn with the Steelers now. Here's to hoping his D tears up the league.

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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #21
              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
              He's Tennessee's special now. It's Butler's turn with the Steelers now. Here's to hoping his D tears up the league.
              This is true. Nobody on this board would argue against this. Nevertheless, it doesn't mean that LeBeau wasn't special during his tenure here.

              But, his tenure is over and Butler takes over this year. Every true Steeler fan wants him to do well for the team's sake.
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #22
                Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                He's Tennessee's special now. It's Butler's turn with the Steelers now. Here's to hoping his D tears up the league.
                Ageed. I only hope he can be The GREAT coordinator DL was. That would be awesome.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  This is true. Nobody on this board would argue against this. Nevertheless, it doesn't mean that LeBeau wasn't special during his tenure here.

                  But, his tenure is over and Butler takes over this year. Every true Steeler fan wants him to do well for the team's sake.

                  The only problem with DL was we might lose younger Bultler if we did not make a move. Far from an indictment of DL, hiring a guy who coached under him only validates him.

                  If we really wanted to ditch his system, we would get a guy from outside.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    LeBeau is not any other coach. He's special.
                    Obviously the NFL no longer believes that since no one was rushing to hire him as a DC. He had a good run but he didn't have it the last few years.
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Obviously the NFL no longer believes that since no one was rushing to hire him as a DC. He had a good run but he didn't have it the last few years.
                      He wasn't sought after because of his age, if he were Butler's age he would have been unemployed for 15 minutes. The same as those who want to throw Mike Tomlin out with the bath water, he'd be unemployed for 5 minutes if the Steelers were foolish enough to fire him. In DL's case it was time to move on and hire a guy who could in all likelihood be the Steeler DC for a decade or longer.

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16041

                        #26
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        He wasn't sought after because of his age, if he were Butler's age he would have been unemployed for 15 minutes. The same as those who want to throw Mike Tomlin out with the bath water, he'd be unemployed for 5 minutes if the Steelers were foolish enough to fire him. In DL's case it was time to move on and hire a guy who could in all likelihood be the Steeler DC for a decade or longer.

                        Pappy
                        Money post
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Obviously the NFL no longer believes that since no one was rushing to hire him as a DC. He had a good run but he didn't have it the last few years.
                          5 minutes after walking away from the Steelers, he was being linked with possible coaching jobs elsewhere. People weren't rushing to hire him? Hah!
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Slapstick
                            5 minutes after walking away from the Steelers, he was being linked with possible coaching jobs elsewhere. People weren't rushing to hire him? Hah!
                            Obviously, those links were not very strong because they went no where...hah!
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Discipline of Steel
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3882

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              5 minutes after walking away from the Steelers, he was being linked with possible coaching jobs elsewhere. People weren't rushing to hire him? Hah!
                              At this point, defending Dick LeBeau is not even necessary. Internet coaches can sit behind a keyboard, bashing an all-time Steeler great all they want but it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I question their allegiance to the Steelers and suggest their allegiance is to themselves and the over-sized egos of their internet personalities. No one is required to agree with everything but, yeah, you have to show respect to the people on the team. Is what you write here something you would say to their face??
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                              Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women.

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
                                At this point, defending Dick LeBeau is not even necessary. Internet coaches can sit behind a keyboard, bashing an all-time Steeler great all they want but it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I question their allegiance to the Steelers and suggest their allegiance is to themselves and the over-sized egos of their internet personalities. No one is required to agree with everything but, yeah, you have to show respect to the people on the team. Is what you write here something you would say to their face??
                                No one has ever said LeBeau wasn't great for a time. The difference in opinions is that some acknowledge he quit being great and you can't be successful in the NFL being all sentimental about the past. LeBeau was awesome with one group of players he had but he could not translate that to another group and our player development on the Defensive side of the ball was either poor or players were not put into the position of success.

                                Chcuk Noll and every great coach of the 70's Steelers moved on, but the debate here is that some think that LeBeau should never had moved on and dictated the terms of his employment to his employers no matter what the performance on the field. We passed the time for change a couple of years ago and this off season it was clear he had no answers and you had a talented loyal assitant waiting who was clearly promised something.

                                LeBeau had his run but it ended. He did great for a long time but that ended when one group of players started to depart. Hold onto the good memories just don't let them blind you to what the reality of the last couple years of his term were really like.

                                Change is good and essential in organizations now is Butler's turn to prove the organizations faith in him is warranted.
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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