Who is this guy in this years draft?

[squidkid]

i can only assume that the fans that are saying having a vocal, emotional leader on the field isnt important never have played a competitive sport

[Shoe]

Can I just get some names? It is fine to have this argument but I just wanted to know of some Steeler type players. I am behind on my knowledge of players this year.

I just don't think it is that easy.

As said (above), Heyward and Pouncey talk smack all the time. That doesn't make you a Peezy or Lloyd. I think Heyward is a good complementary "ass kicker" (the term I've always used for the role), but we do need more in that department (I agree). Guys like that (e.g. Peezy) have an emotional intensity that is just that much higher than others. That's why it isn't so easy to throw out names.

[Oviedo]

What sux about Goodell is his efforts to reduce the impact (both literally and figuratively) of those special players....turning heroes into the bad guys with fines et al.

True, but that is the NFL so a different type of leader needs to step up. The NFL isn't ever rolling back the clock.

[Flasteel]

If you don't have the skillset to dominate your opponent, your attitude won't take you very far. You need a guy who's got the whole package in terms of talent, drive, and mind-set. I'm liking this guy more and more because I think he's got those goods:

[url]http://pit.scout.com/story/1521477-post-combine-here-s-my-guy[/url]

[K Train]

If you don't have the skillset to dominate your opponent, your attitude won't take you very far. You need a guy who's got the whole package in terms of talent, drive, and mind-set. I'm liking this guy more and more because I think he's got those goods:

[url]http://pit.scout.com/story/1521477-post-combine-here-s-my-guy[/url]

No question.

The man is a violent player who constantly punishes his opponent.

[Shawn]

If you don't have the skillset to dominate your opponent, your attitude won't take you very far. You need a guy who's got the whole package in terms of talent, drive, and mind-set. I'm liking this guy more and more because I think he's got those goods:

[URL]http://pit.scout.com/story/1521477-post-combine-here-s-my-guy[/URL]

The more I watch of him, the more I believe he is the pick.

[Shawn]

BTW-I was big on Woodley coming out of Michigan. Studied him a lot. Od is Woodley 2.0. That is what you are getting. But, I think Od has more heart than Woodley. I don't think he will cash out. My ONLY concern is his hip.

[Mr.wizard]

I disagree.. a vocal leader elevates HIS team. He challenges HIS teammates to play better...

He knows how to bring out the fire in certain individuals who may be going through the motions or lacks focus for 60 minutes due to a variety of reasons.

That's all just fan speak, All of the perceived great vocal leaders where considered that because they where on good teams. Nfl teams are filled with firey guys, players, coaches, fans, priests, and motivational speakers. Drew brees is considered a great leader and they where terrible last year, despite all of the choreographed pre game motivational chants. It boils down to football talent and execution, all that nfl films stuff is just window dressing.

[K Train]

BTW-I was big on Woodley coming out of Michigan. Studied him a lot. Od is Woodley 2.0. That is what you are getting. But, I think Od has more heart than Woodley. I don't think he will cash out. My ONLY concern is his hip.

I see some similarities, I thought woodley was a bit soft coming out....he really came in and played well from day one though.

Odighizuwa is more like woodleys size with harrisons violence and demeanor....which you can sign me up for any day.

His functional strength is just flat out rare for a college prospect at DE/OLB

[Shawn]

I see some similarities, I thought woodley was a bit soft coming out....he really came in and played well from day one though.

Odighizuwa is more like woodleys size with harrisons violence and demeanor....which you can sign me up for any day.

His functional strength is just flat out rare for a college prospect at DE/OLB

Agreed. He doesn't seem like a Tomlin pick. He seems like a Cowher pick. I think this guy has all the tools to be very special.

[K Train]

What doesnt he seem like a tomlin pick? (they are all pretty much Colbert picks i think)

Woodley was tomlins second draft pick lol

[RuthlessBurgher]

What doesnt he seem like a tomlin pick? (they are all pretty much Colbert picks i think)

Woodley was tomlins second draft pick lol

Cam Heyward was also a top Tomlin pick, and he's a pretty nasty violent dude.

[Shawn]

What doesnt he seem like a tomlin pick? (they are all pretty much Colbert picks i think)

Woodley was tomlins second draft pick lol

I have noticed a major switch in philosophy as of recent. Speed and athleticism over toughness and technical skill. Whether that has anything to do with Tomlin, I don't know. As for Woodley, I don't think Tomlin had as much say on the front end of this career with the Steelers. Heyward is indeed a beast but he is also on the DL. They have been picking less physical and smallish LBrs as of recent...ie JJ and Shazier. Coincidence? Possibly. Just an observation. If they go with Dupree over OD then it will further engrain what I am seeing.

[Shawn]

Oh yeah not to mention Ziggy Hood. I mean could they have drafted a guy who looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane? Dupree is Hood 2.0.

[K Train]

Who were these tough and technically skills players that you are talking about? Aside from Aaron Smith and Casey Hampton?

Porter? Speed product at 6-4 244
Kendrell Bell? 6-1 234...SMALLER than Shazier
Larry Foote? Another undersized LB
How about Farrior? A vastly undersized MLB
Alonzo Jackson?
How about polamalu? Freakishly athletic, completely undersized USC product?

I guess Shaun Nua, Orien Harris, and Anthony smith were all "tough players" lol