Who is this guy in this years draft?

[legend of polamalu]

I don't care what round but we need a Defensive player with a mouth, a leader not afraid of getting into the face of another player.
Joey Porter type AND Physical as all get out.
Lately its been some quality guys but their not vocal leaders or someone to put the fear in opposing teams.

So who is this years trash talking, vocal leader we have missed on the past several drafts? Timmons is great, Worilds was alright, but it seems we keep drafting guys without the physical, vocal. tough mentality. (J. Lambert)

Round isn't important...I just want this guy on our team this year. So who the heck is he? HELP!

[Chadman]

Here you go...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikk_ax9nvs[/url]

[Mr.wizard]

I think its an overrated quality to look for in a player, Im sure we have plenty of hard ass dudes on our defense. In the NFL you are not going to beat teams by intimidation or out hyping them, you beat them with talent and execution. Besides asking a rookie to come into a locker room and start jumping on guys when he hasn't done anything is recipe for disaster.

[legend of polamalu]

I think its an overrated quality to look for in a player, Im sure we have plenty of hard ass dudes on our defense. In the NFL you are not going to beat teams by intimidation or out hyping them, you beat them with talent and execution. Besides asking a rookie to come into a locker room and start jumping on guys when he hasn't done anything is recipe for disaster.

I disagree! Yes, its mostly talent and execution, but when the want, the attitude and the intimidation is there...it makes a difference. Remember in Superbowl 40. Seattle's TE talked trash with Joey Porter. We cam out an laid the lumber. He looked scared and dropped about 5 balls. You don't think guys were a little nervous going against Mean Joe Greene and Jack Lambert? Its an edge I want back. I want football players that want to play, and play hard with an attitude.
(SUH, SHERMAN).

[Mr.wizard]

I disagree! Yes, its mostly talent and execution, but when the want, the attitude and the intimidation is there...it makes a difference. Remember in Superbowl 40. Seattle's TE talked trash with Joey Porter. We cam out an laid the lumber. He looked scared and dropped about 5 balls. You don't think guys were a little nervous going against Mean Joe Greene and Jack Lambert? Its an edge I want back. I want football players that want to play, and play hard with an attitude.
(SUH, SHERMAN).

No honestly I don't, when you put the pads on and your on the field, your not thinking about who the other guy is. Running backs are not taking the ball and avoiding holes because suh is on the other side. Qb's don't go away from Sherman because he has attitude, they go away from him because he can cover. A bunch of hard asses are not going to intimidate a bunch of hard asses, every team has them.

[Coolie Man]

I think its an overrated quality to look for in a player, Im sure we have plenty of hard ass dudes on our defense. In the NFL you are not going to beat teams by intimidation or out hyping them, you beat them with talent and execution. Besides asking a rookie to come into a locker room and start jumping on guys when he hasn't done anything is recipe for disaster.

This ^^^^^^^^^

[chiken]

I agree with this but I think your looking at it wrong, its not intimidating the other team, it's picking the level of your own team up. To me thats what the great leaders on our Defense did. The best stories about Mean Joe were not from opponents but from his own teammates and coaches. The guy at one point was ready to quit the team because they (sucked) were playing so bad. His Teammates was afraid to under perform. He rose the level.. Same stuff with Lloyd and Porter. I think thats a key piece thats been missing from our recent Defenses. A real bad guy.
with all that said I think this year C Heyward becomes that guy - the Vocal leader. The bad guy. (he has been good but very quiet to this point) He is Violent, he is Talented and he plays Angry.

[Steelhere10]

You can't intimidate anymore with Goodell , because even if you are a hard hitter that talk trash you can't hit hard anymore or you get fined so players know that.

[Steelhere10]

5 years ago that was a quality that everyone wanted, now is useless.

[Shawn]

Those kind of guys even at the professional level are not only able to elevate their concentration and execution, but those of their teammates. No one can tell me that having guys like Porter and Ray Lewis didn't elevate the whole teams play riding off their energy.

[K Train]

Havent you ever seen Heyward and Pouncey play? All they do is talk **** lol

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Havent you ever seen Heyward and Pouncey play? All they do is talk **** lol

I think Heyward might be that vocal defensive leader that Legend was talking about.

[Discipline of Steel]

Im on the other side of the argument...you cant underestimate what the presence of a true enforcer (Lambert, Lloyd, Harrison) does for the attitude of the entire team. Those players are great in their own right, and they also make everyone around them better. Unfortunately, those types are few and far between, and i dont think there is a way to identify those rare gems coming out of college. What sux about Goodell is his efforts to reduce the impact (both literally and figuratively) of those special players....turning heroes into the bad guys with fines et al.

[feltdizz]

No honestly I don't, when you put the pads on and your on the field, your not thinking about who the other guy is. Running backs are not taking the ball and avoiding holes because suh is on the other side. Qb's don't go away from Sherman because he has attitude, they go away from him because he can cover. A bunch of hard asses are not going to intimidate a bunch of hard asses, every team has them.

I disagree.. a vocal leader elevates HIS team. He challenges HIS teammates to play better...

He knows how to bring out the fire in certain individuals who may be going through the motions or lacks focus for 60 minutes due to a variety of reasons.

[legend of polamalu]

Can I just get some names? It is fine to have this argument but I just wanted to know of some Steeler type players. I am behind on my knowledge of players this year.