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You guys need to get over this personalization of anything anyone has to say about Lebeau. I neither am "angry" nor do I "hate" LeBeau. I just think what he was doing here the past 3-4 years was wrong and I voiced that opinion versus trusting his great past successes to be replicated in the future. I thought we needed to change because he couldn't fix the problem and it was getting worse not better. I also didn't like that it appeared he wasn't going to consider change. It was "my opinion" that he was just waiting for the "next great players" to come along but as I have stated for years, his way leaves little margin for error in drafting and talent development, the latter of which I think his team failed at doing.
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that still doesn't necessarily mean a shift to 4-3 - though I'm not saying whether they will or won't at this point.
if it DID happen, we certainly have the backers... We have 4 LB's that I would trust to be ANY of the 3 backers (Timmons, Shaz, Vince and Spence). The bigger question as you've all pointed out, who becomes the DE/edge rushers. Jarvis becomes a waste of space and Worilds is no longer needed - but, the team would desperately need to find good edge rushers at DE.... and FAST2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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That's where I disagree - i think they simply had some misses based on the defense he plays. I've always argued that NT and ILB are the two most important positions in that 3-4 defense - because they help get you into passing downs, where DL could use his elaborate blitzes.
Understanding THAT and also understanding that there is a 2 year grace period before players are really productive, you have to understand that when you have guys like Hampton, Farror and Foote in the twilight of their careers, you need to replace them early enough to get the "next man up" PREPARED for his job.
When Porter and Haggans were waiting on Gildon, and later Harrison was pushing those guys out of the way after riding the pine a couple of seasons, that was perfection. They forgot how to do that. Timmons pushing Foote out the door to land next to Farrior MEANT, find the next Timmons... NOW... Someone needs to be preparing for Farrior's role.
To me, that is where it all went south...2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.Comment
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Funny how our defense was a 4-3 at least half the time last year yet people complained how bad they were. Now a switch to 4-3 permanently and they think it will solve all our problems. Sometimes I don't get the lack of logic on this site. Whether we play a 3-4, a 4-3, or a 2-5 we still need players to make it work.As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.
but Go Steelers!!!
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With a 3-4, you can manufacture pressure via deception if you don't have the horses to consistently beat the opposition one-on-one.
With a 4-3, you are relying on the 4 guys up front to generate pressure alone. It is more talent-reliant than the 3-4, and we simply don't have the talent to make it work.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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so we finally 'mutually part ways' with our 3/4 DC and hire 'waiting in the wings for 5 years, heir apparent 3/4 coach' but are gonna run the 4/3...............sounds brilliantsteelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clownComment
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Seriously? Even if the OLBs rushing is no surprise, you can adjust where the other pressure comes from. With the 3-4, you can rush the 2 OLBs and the 2 DEs, dropping the NT into the middle and each ILB into the flats. Or you could rush the 2 OLBs, 1 ILB, and the NT, with both DEs dropping into the flats and the other ILB covering the middle. Or countless other combinations that are way more confusing for an offense than your "an extra LB rushing is harder to adjust to" justification for the 4-3. Relying on a basic 4-3 in which the front 4 must beat the guy in front of him is high school offense at best. Personally, I want my defensive coordinator to be creative and innovative, bringing pressure from anywhere and everywhere at any given time, not just tell our 4 guys up front to beat their 5 guys up front, but that's just me. But you have been praying for a super simplified defense where rookies know their whole playbooks the day after the draft so they can play right away, so whatever.Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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So how exactly is rushing Worilds or Harrison any different then putting one of the OLB hands on the ground and rushing him EVERY play? That's what you'd be doing in a 4/3, just making one of the OLB a DE and rushing him every single play. Oh and you'd move the other OLB 3 yards further off the ball.
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Hint: by rushing either Worilds OR Harrison, you have to actually slide protection to the correct side, otherwise they're going to be blocked by the RB or the QB
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