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  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Nothing wrong with Wheatons game. We barely have enough footballs to go around as it is...

    Archer and Wheaton will continue to get touches whether people like it or not.
    I'm with you Felt.

    What the hell didn't Wheaton do this year? People have to be kidding, he's the #3 with 53 receptions and 644 yards, 2 TDs, no fumbles and by all accounts a good teammate. What the hell more do you expect from a #3 receiver? Ben liked him as well. Geesus people, get a grip.

    You can't have a 129 reception, 1700 yard and 10 TD receiver at all of your WR positions.

    Pappy
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    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26636

      #32
      A Coby Fleener type TE would look real good next to Miller.

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      • Sugar
        Hall of Famer
        • Oct 2008
        • 3700

        #33
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        A Coby Fleener type TE would look real good next to Miller.
        Everyone is saying how bad the draft class is for them, but will their be any good TE's in FA?

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #34
          Originally posted by papillon
          I'm with you Felt.

          What the hell didn't Wheaton do this year? People have to be kidding, he's the #3 with 53 receptions and 644 yards, 2 TDs, no fumbles and by all accounts a good teammate. What the hell more do you expect from a #3 receiver? Ben liked him as well. Geesus people, get a grip.

          You can't have a 129 reception, 1700 yard and 10 TD receiver at all of your WR positions.

          Pappy

          Only thing this offense needs is a legit #2 RB and a TE to groom behind Miller.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #35
            They will draft a WR/KR.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #36
              Something to keep in mind for those who believe Wheaton had a good year. He is 71st in the league in receiving. He played the entire season as the #2 WR…not the #3. Guys like John Brown, Andre Holmes, and the rookie Jarvis Landry had better seasons. To me that feels a bit light for a #2. He will likely have less next season when he gets rightfully demoted. Personally, I would love to have a Jarvis Landry in the slot.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #37
                Steelers leading receivers:

                Brown - 129 catches, 1698 yards, 13 TDs
                Bell - 83 catches, 854 yards, 3 TDs
                Miller - 66 catches, 761 yards, 3 TDs
                Wheaton - 53 catches, 644 yards, 2 TDs
                Bryant - 26 catches, 549 yards, 8 TDs

                Anybody on that list would have been fortunate to put up numbers equal to Wheaton in this particular offense. The Steelers may draft a WR. Considering how often they've drafted at least one over the past few years, it would hardly be surprising. But, it won't be because they are unhappy with Wheaton.
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  He will have to show me something more for me to sign up on the Wheaton bandwagon. Underselling? Maybe…but I would love to see a consistent chain mover not named Brown on this squad.
                  I really can't understand you fixating on Wheaton who had over 50 catches in 2014. I think you need to reserve your skepticism and add some for someone like Jarvis Jones who has shown very little. Wheaton, as a 3rd round pick, had an excellent second season at WR. Wheaton is the least of our young players we should be worried about.
                  Last edited by Oviedo; 01-06-2015, 09:35 AM.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • Oviedo
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Something to keep in mind for those who believe Wheaton had a good year. He is 71st in the league in receiving. He played the entire season as the #2 WR…not the #3. Guys like John Brown, Andre Holmes, and the rookie Jarvis Landry had better seasons. To me that feels a bit light for a #2. He will likely have less next season when he gets rightfully demoted. Personally, I would love to have a Jarvis Landry in the slot.
                    Shawn-I think you are being very superficial. None of those other WR you mentioned played with the leading receiver in the NFL...did they? I also disagree that Wheaton was the #2 receiver. IMO the offense shifted and that was Bell and to a lesser extent Miller. Did Brown, Holmes or Landry has a RB with 80+ catches on their team?
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I really can't understand you fixating on Wheaton who had 60 catches in 2014. I think you need to reserve your skepticism and add some for someone like Jarvis Jones who has shown very little. Wheaton, as a 3rd round pick, had an excellent second season at WR. Wheaton is the least of our young players we should be worried about.
                      How was Wheaton's first season? Oh, right...he was injured.

                      Funny how that can affect a player's performance...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        How was Wheaton's first season? Oh, right...he was injured.

                        Funny how that can affect a player's performance...
                        First season...not the first two going into yet another off season with the same issues and needing the same improvements. Big difference.
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          First season...not the first two going into yet another off season with the same issues and needing the same improvements. Big difference.
                          Not really. When you are showing improvement and then are injured, it's no different at all.
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            I really can't understand you fixating on Wheaton who had over 50 catches in 2014. I think you need to reserve your skepticism and add some for someone like Jarvis Jones who has shown very little. Wheaton, as a 3rd round pick, had an excellent second season at WR. Wheaton is the least of our young players we should be worried about.
                            LOL... cmon Crash.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Steelers leading receivers:

                              Brown - 129 catches, 1698 yards, 13 TDs
                              Bell - 83 catches, 854 yards, 3 TDs
                              Miller - 66 catches, 761 yards, 3 TDs
                              Wheaton - 53 catches, 644 yards, 2 TDs
                              Bryant - 26 catches, 549 yards, 8 TDs

                              Anybody on that list would have been fortunate to put up numbers equal to Wheaton in this particular offense. The Steelers may draft a WR. Considering how often they've drafted at least one over the past few years, it would hardly be surprising. But, it won't be because they are unhappy with Wheaton.
                              $$$$$ post
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • papillon
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 11340

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Oviedo
                                I really can't understand you fixating on Wheaton who had over 50 catches in 2014. I think you need to reserve your skepticism and add some for someone like Jarvis Jones who has shown very little. Wheaton, as a 3rd round pick, had an excellent second season at WR. Wheaton is the least of our young players we should be worried about.
                                Hard to disagree with this about Jones and Wheaton, while I still think Jones is going to be a very good LB for the Steelers, based on performance and improvement I am certainly more skeptical of Jones than Wheaton. this was basically Wheaton's rookie season, everyone seems to forget that missing entire years when you are a young player makes catching up difficult because you have no experience to lean on. It's the only reason I still have hope for Jones. He was showing improvement and then the wrist injury and regardless of the fact that he actually came back and played he in all likelihood didn't trust the wrist to hold up.

                                Next year will be huge for him and hopefully he steps up and becomes the player the Steelers hoped he would be, a 7-9 sack season would be good and improved play in the run game.

                                Wheaton by all accounts appears to be ready to be a very good #3, Bryant will be the #2 next year and a dangerous one. I expect AB's number to drop due to Bryant.

                                Pappy
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                                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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