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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #16
    Originally posted by Shawn
    Why do people read things that are not there? I didn't say anything about cutting ties with Wheaton. I said bring in some competition for the slot.
    Need to bring in competition for the #2 TE more than we do for the #3 or #4 WR. I'm really concerned with how slow and increasingly inconsistent Heath Miller looked this season.

    I remember hearing that the team was high on Branchflower, hopefully he can be more than Spaeth.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Eddie Spaghetti
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 4123

      #17
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Need to bring in competition for the #2 TE more than we do for the #3 or #4 WR. I'm really concerned with how slow and increasingly inconsistent Heath Miller looked this season.

      I remember hearing that the team was high on Branchflower, hopefully he can be more than Spaeth.
      Agree completely. Feels like Shawn is underselling wheaton here. He is a pretty damn good player who is still emerging. Someone may eventually sign him away from us as a #2. I'm certainly happy with his trajectory so far

      TE is a bigger need than most think, IMO. I believe heath is very close to being done and may be already

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #18
        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
        Agree completely. Feels like Shawn is underselling wheaton here. He is a pretty damn good player who is still emerging. Someone may eventually sign him away from us as a #2. I'm certainly happy with his trajectory so far

        TE is a bigger need than most think, IMO. I believe heath is very close to being done and may be already
        $$$$$$ Unfortunately the previous two drafts had very good TEs to develop and we passed. This one is weak.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Eddie Spaghetti
          Hall of Famer
          • Jul 2008
          • 4123

          #19
          I would still not have selected either of those guys in the 1st like you wanted. Neither were skilled enough to go that high, IMO.

          Where did Travis kelce go? 4th? That's the kid of guy we need to find

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Need to bring in competition for the #2 TE more than we do for the #3 or #4 WR. I'm really concerned with how slow and increasingly inconsistent Heath Miller looked this season.

            I remember hearing that the team was high on Branchflower, hopefully he can be more than Spaeth.
            As you can see in my mock you can do both. I assume the Steelers will as well.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #21
              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              Agree completely. Feels like Shawn is underselling wheaton here. He is a pretty damn good player who is still emerging. Someone may eventually sign him away from us as a #2. I'm certainly happy with his trajectory so far

              TE is a bigger need than most think, IMO. I believe heath is very close to being done and may be already
              He will have to show me something more for me to sign up on the Wheaton bandwagon. Underselling? Maybe…but I would love to see a consistent chain mover not named Brown on this squad.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Eddie Spaghetti
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 4123

                #22
                Originally posted by Shawn
                He will have to show me something more for me to sign up on the Wheaton bandwagon. Underselling? Maybe…but I would love to see a consistent chain mover not named Brown on this squad.
                I've seen some of that already. I believe he has well above average hands and runs good routes, exactly what you want in this offense. As a 3rd rounder, he is playing well, IMO.

                Also showed some toughness the other night. He took a major league shot and was able to get up. That impressed me

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                • Shawn
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                  I've seen some of that already. I believe he has well above average hands and runs good routes, exactly what you want in this offense. As a 3rd rounder, he is playing well, IMO.

                  Also showed some toughness the other night. He took a major league shot and was able to get up. That impressed me
                  I suppose I'm looking for the next Welker.
                  Trolls are people too.

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                  • SteelerMaine83
                    Starter
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 826

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    I suppose I'm looking for the next Welker.
                    The next Welker is a small, slow 40 (but with quicks) guy with good hands, good route running ability and no fear. Those guys are 6-UDFA guys. Put Antonio Brown in the Combine this year and he'll end up being a 3rd rounder or lower. Small and not 4.4 doesn't sell. Welker (and Brown) . are football players. Competition is good everyone who's up for it. Someone to compete with Wheaton only makes us better, but I like Wheaton okay.

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SteelerMaine83
                      The next Welker is a small, slow 40 (but with quicks) guy with good hands, good route running ability and no fear. Those guys are 6-UDFA guys. Put Antonio Brown in the Combine this year and he'll end up being a 3rd rounder or lower. Small and not 4.4 doesn't sell. Welker (and Brown) . are football players. Competition is good everyone who's up for it. Someone to compete with Wheaton only makes us better, but I like Wheaton okay.
                      I agree with this…the guy last year who I felt had this potential was Abbrederis. Of course his knee injury in camp put a nix to that. It's a tough, hard nosed, fast twitch guy who runs sharp routes and has a good head. If that guy exists in this draft…I want him. And let him and Wheaton fight it out in camp.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                        I've seen some of that already. I believe he has well above average hands and runs good routes, exactly what you want in this offense. As a 3rd rounder, he is playing well, IMO.

                        Also showed some toughness the other night. He took a major league shot and was able to get up. That impressed me
                        Nothing wrong with Wheatons game. We barely have enough footballs to go around as it is...

                        Archer and Wheaton will continue to get touches whether people like it or not.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • flippy
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #27
                          We have so many needs, I really think we just have to go BPA and take the guys that will make the team better regardless of position.

                          If there is a stud CB, NT, OLB, T, TE, S when we pick, I think we take him. I lean toward going heavy on D. It'll be interesting to see what we do in FA first. There's a lot of holes to fill.
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                          • fezziwig
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3515

                            #28
                            They showed the three B's during the game. Ben, Brown and Bell with all the yards they have amassed. My first thought was, " but the offense settles for field goals. "

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                            • Iron City Inc.
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 3237

                              #29
                              Penn State TE Jesse James has declared. He is legit 6 6 255 and recorded 38 396 3 this year. Only a junior who wont turn 21 until June. Better receiver then blocker. Decent speed and I can't wait to see him test prior to the draft. Seen him play a few times and not sure how high he will be rated but he is a day 3 prospect in my opinion perhaps a 5th rounder if I had put a number on it. Not sure where Kiper and company will have him but as a day three flyer if we miss out on the OSU te he has some skills to work with.
                              Day three sleeper with some upside.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27531

                                #30
                                Originally posted by fezziwig
                                They showed the three B's during the game. Ben, Brown and Bell with all the yards they have amassed. My first thought was, " but the offense settles for field goals. "
                                The last game without Bell?
                                Steelers 27
                                Rats 16

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