Ray Rice seems like he's now legalyl available , if I understand this right ...

[RuthlessBurgher]

Hitting a woman is among the most egregious violations of the Man Code and violators need to be held accountable through law and social stigma.

FlaSteel wrote the book on the Man Code. Literally.

[Flasteel]

FlaSteel wrote the book on the Man Code. Literally.

Outstanding memory RB!!

[Mr.wizard]

I was part of a huge, civil discussion in person about the situation a couple months ago. I don't agree with domestic violence of any kind. What he did was wrong, HOWEVER not a person has brought up the fact that she was beating on him before the elevator and in the elevator which produced the reaction. I see girls swinging on guys, I've never seen a guy swinging on a girl. Now with that said I know guys hit girls but why are girls so willing to do it in public? Because they don't catch the same kind of sh.it. NOw for me, thats as big a problem as guys hitting girls. I remember a while back watching that show "what would you do?". First scenario guy pushing girl up against the wall, yelling with mild but aggressive contact. Everyone had something to say, second scenario girl was the aggressor and passers by were laughing about it. Why? My agree or disagree stems from that but I failed to elaborate.

I don't know if I would call a few slaps from a 110lb girl on nfl football player "beating him", nor do I see what he did as an eye for an eye scenario. What would I do in that in that situation? I would leave, I certainly wouldn't wait till we where in a confined space and catch her off guard with vicious right hook. It doesn't really matter to me what she did because he wasn't defending himself, he hit her out of rage. Are girls wrong for hitting guys, yes absolutely but that is not an excuse for that type of violence in return. You also seem to be suggesting that guys don't "swing on" girls more often or publicly because they "catch sh.t" for it, and that is just crazy, I would never lay my hands on a woman and it has nothing to do with the consequences.

[Snatch98]

FlaSteel wrote the book on the Man Code. Literally.

I don't know if I would call a few slaps from a 110lb girl on nfl football player "beating him", nor do I see what he did as an eye for an eye scenario. What would I do in that in that situation? I would leave, I certainly wouldn't wait till we where in a confined space and catch her off guard with vicious right hook. It doesn't really matter to me what she did because he wasn't defending himself, he hit her out of rage. Are girls wrong for hitting guys, yes absolutely but that is not an excuse for that type of violence in return. You also seem to be suggesting that guys don't "swing on" girls more often or publicly because they "catch sh.t" for it, and that is just crazy, I would never lay my hands on a woman and it has nothing to do with the consequences.

I don't agree with hitting people out of rage, I really don't agree with hitting people at all unless its self defense. My point is people shouldn't be hitting one another at all but some girls think its okay to hit their significant others because society has deemed it acceptable. Its already been justified at least once in this thread. Soooo what we have in a lot of instances are a bunch of girls hitting their significant others and a population of males that don't have restraint that swing back. I would have also left but some guys don't.

If girls didn't find it socially acceptable to hit guys I believe you would see a drop in domestic violence. She should have caught just as much sh.it as he did.

[Mr.wizard]

I don't agree with hitting people out of rage, I really don't agree with hitting people at all unless its self defense. My point is people shouldn't be hitting one another at all but some girls think its okay to hit their significant others because society has deemed it acceptable. Its already been justified at least once in this thread. Soooo what we have in a lot of instances are a bunch of girls hitting their significant others and a population of males that don't have restraint that swing back. I would have also left but some guys don't.

If girls didn't find it socially acceptable to hit guys I believe you would see a drop in domestic violence. She should have caught just as much sh.it as he did.

I don't agree that girls find it socially acceptable to hit guys or that its even socially acceptable. I also don't agree that she should of caught "as much sh.t as him" there is a huge difference in what she did to him and what he did to her, he could of killed her easily, I seriously doubt he was ever in that kind of danger. Also your assertion that there would be less domestic violence if women didn't hit men suggests that women are forcing these men to hit them and therefore should get as much blame, I find that notion disgusting.

[Snatch98]

I don't agree that girls find it socially acceptable to hit guys or that its even socially acceptable. I also don't agree that she should of caught "as much sh.t as him" there is a huge difference in what she did to him and what he did to her, he could of killed her easily, I seriously doubt he was ever in that kind of danger. Also your assertion that there would be less domestic violence if women didn't hit men suggests that women are forcing these men to hit them and therefore should get as much blame, I find that notion disgusting.

I at no point suggested all domestic violence is based on instances were women were hitting men before the men decide to hit women. I did say that I bet you would see a drop in instances of domestic violence if women didn't feel like they could get away with hitting their significant others. If my girl ever laid a hand on me in a unprovoked aggressive manner we would be done. How many other guys would do the same. My point is there aren't the same kind of consequences for women as their are for men when talking about domestic violence and I don't give a damn about differences in strength. I'm not justifying domestic violence of any kind. I also think you are being 100% naive when you say its not more socially accepted for women to hit men. I've never seen a guy hit a girl in person. I have seen girls hitting guys and I've seen the latter for a reason.

Edit: and why shouldn't women get the same kind of blame? We were taught at a young age to not hit. When were we taught that its okay to be hit by girls? People shouldn't be hitting each other period. Chivalry is dead with a lot of guys. Its a shame but that's the truth.

[Shoe]

I at no point suggested all domestic violence is based on instances were women were hitting men before the men decide to hit women. I did say that I bet you would see a drop in instances of domestic violence if women didn't feel like they could get away with hitting their significant others. If my girl ever laid a hand on me in a unprovoked aggressive manner we would be done. How many other guys would do the same. My point is there aren't the same kind of consequences for women as their are for men when talking about domestic violence and I don't give a damn about differences in strength. I'm not justifying domestic violence of any kind. I also think you are being 100% naive when you say its not more socially accepted for women to hit men. I've never seen a guy hit a girl in person. I have seen girls hitting guys and I've seen the latter for a reason.

Edit: and why shouldn't women get the same kind of blame? We were taught at a young age to not hit. When were we taught that its okay to be hit by girls? People shouldn't be hitting each other period.

You're right.
If a man clocked you, had your ear ringing, you would be INCENSED... and anything you did back to him (within reason) would be socially acceptable (i.e. kicking his a$s). But if a woman does the same thing to you? You are supposed to treat them as a stupid child who doesn't know the potential consequence of that action?

[phillyesq]

Lets take this out of the hypothetical and into reality. Ray Rice is an NFL athlete. His then gf/now wife had absolutely no ability to inflict any pain on him whatsoever. If you are Rice and she keeps hitting you, you grab her wrists. That's about it. There is absolutely no excuse for his actions, which are intolerable in a civilized society.

[Snatch98]

Lets take this out of the hypothetical and into reality. Ray Rice is an NFL athlete. His then gf/now wife had absolutely no ability to inflict any pain on him whatsoever. If you are Rice and she keeps hitting you, you grab her wrists. That's about it. There is absolutely no excuse for his actions, which are intolerable in a civilized society.

Why is this even a position? I'm never going to hit a woman and I don't expect to ever be hit by a woman. My s/o knows that if she hits me we are done just as I expect the same from her. Why do people think its okay for women to hit men? Its not okay. Its even less okay now because as I said before for a lot of men, younger generations chivalry is dead.

[squidkid]

domestic violence, to each their own, i guess.
if rice likes punching his wife out and his wife is okay with it, let them have at it.

[feltdizz]

Why is this even a position? I'm never going to hit a woman and I don't expect to ever be hit by a woman. My s/o knows that if she hits me we are done just as I expect the same from her. Why do people think its okay for women to hit men? Its not okay. Its even less okay now because as I said before for a lot of men, younger generations chivalry is dead.

I haven't read anyone in here say it's okay for a woman to hit a man.

[Mr.wizard]

Why is this even a position? I'm never going to hit a woman and I don't expect to ever be hit by a woman. My s/o knows that if she hits me we are done just as I expect the same from her. Why do people think its okay for women to hit men? Its not okay. Its even less okay now because as I said before for a lot of men, younger generations chivalry is dead.

That is not anyone's position, nobody is saying its ok for a woman to hit a man. The point is a professional athlete of incredible strength unloaded a right hook to face of a 110lb woman out of a fit of rage, there is no excuse for that. Yes its wrong of her to hit him but if your going to try to equate what he did to her with what she did to him, there is no way on earth im buying that. What does chivalry have to do with domestic violence?