So is everyone looking forward to Ike and Troy's return for our end-of-season run?

[feltdizz]

Troy and Ike were part of our horrible D this year.

it's 11 on 10 with Troy out there half the time.

[Ernie]

This is not the D we have become accustomed to as Steeler fans.. no doubt about that..
Ike is done. Troy is not a factor anymore. With that being said...one of those scores was on a short field off of a turnover. The D has played well enough to keep us in the game.

The problem I have today is with this offense. We supposedly have one of the best QB, RB, and WRs in the game... along with numerous other weapons... and we can (to this point) only put up 16 pts.. It's hard to point the finger at the D without looking at the other side of the ball as well.

[pittpete]

Troy is a liability on the field..

[WindyCitySteel]

Ike, Troy, Harrison, and Keisel will all be starting next year if these coaches return. Hopefully they don't.

[bostonsteeler]

Ike, Troy, Harrison, and Keisel will all be starting next year if these coaches return. Hopefully they don't.

Certainly Lebeau must go. He's a legend, but his schemes don't scare anyone anymore. We need fresh blood in the D.

We also need a QB, sadly. Ben is done.

[feltdizz]

Troy is a liability on the field..

it's 11 on 10 with him an the field. I lobe the guy but he is done.

[JoshBroski]

Certainly Lebeau must go. He's a legend, but his schemes don't scare anyone anymore. We need fresh blood in the D.

We also need a QB, sadly. Ben is done.

Lol QB is the last of our concerns. He had a terrible game. He's still got a good 5 years left.

I'll agree with the first sentence sparingly.

[feltdizz]

Lol QB is the last of our concerns. He had a terrible game. He's still got a good 5 years left.

I'll agree with the first sentence sparingly.

Least of our concerns? LOL... Ben is great when he is on but he is HORRIBLE when he is off.

Lack of consistency at QB is why we lose so many games to bad teams.

[Shawn]

Certainly Lebeau must go. He's a legend, but his schemes don't scare anyone anymore. We need fresh blood in the D.

We also need a QB, sadly. Ben is done.

Ben is done? Isn't he fresh coming off two 6 TD games? You are kidding right?

[WindyCitySteel]

Least of our concerns? LOL... Ben is great when he is on but he is HORRIBLE when he is off.

Lack of consistency at QB is why we lose so many games to bad teams.

Eliminate the picks and we still lose. The Saints quit trying on offense after they got to 35. They could have scored 50.

Ben also was under tremendous pressure for much of the first half.

[bostonsteeler]

Eliminate the picks and we still lose. The Saints quit trying on offense after they got to 35. They could have scored 50.

Ben also was under tremendous pressure for much of the first half.

Ben's throws were completely off. Too high, too wide, thrown to the wrong uniform, you name it. He's currently strictly a garbage time QB; that's when he really shines.

His int on the throw to DHB flipped the game -- possibly a 14 point swing.

[feltdizz]

Eliminate the picks and we still lose. The Saints quit trying on offense after they got to 35. They could have scored 50.

Ben also was under tremendous pressure for much of the first half.

Ben was off and the D sucked azz

[WindyCitySteel]

Ben was way off (though Bryant dropped an early TD). I think his hand was not right.

[Flasteel]

Ben played a terrible game today and put us in a hole that we just couldn't climb out of. His performance today reminded me of the Jacksonville playoff game in 2007. The thing that makes it worse is that he's the one talking about how everyone needs to step their game up down the stretch...and he comes out with his worst game of the year.

Pathetic and small performance.

Although he's had some less than spectacular games this year - especially against inferior teams - Ben is more often than not, the reason we win games. Anyone who thinks he's done or is holding this team back, is either a straight-up hater, stupid, or still upset over the loss.

The real problem with this team is the defense...or lack thereof. We cannot cover anyone, we cannot apply any kind of consistent pass rush, and we constantly get gashed against the run. We're a patchwork of declining veterans, free agent busts, under-performing draft picks, and injured spectators. Even with such a sad mixed sack, you would think that we could at least resemble an NFL defense. Today we certainly did not and there have been far to many days like today over the past few seasons.

Without this defense pulling themselves up off the mat, this whole nonsense about a playoff push is a moot point. As much as I hope they can do it, I just don't see it happening.

#wesuckond

[Starlifter]

I believe this is Ike's last year with the steelers. I don't say this with any satisfaction or lack of respect for Taylor - he's been a phenomenal player for the steelers, but I believe his play has declined and as his salary has risen the steelers have likely passed the point where they keep him on the roster. I also think Troy is one year removed beyond that. Same situation. love the guy and nothing but respect - but can anyone remember the last 'splash play' troy made?

it's sad and unfortunate that two of the greatest dbacks in steelers history are nearing the end of their careers - but it's been wonderful to watch them over the years. not so much lately, but that's life in the NFL.