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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #31
    Originally posted by K Train
    Turnovers and a terrible day for ben are directly related to the jets dline controlling the game....all pro players like that can disrupt any game plan when their game is on.
    Wilkerson and Richardson are big obstacles to a a successful run game. In cases like this, the screen game can be used to balance things out as a de facto run game. Also, Rex Ryan has the reputation for being a coach that calls a lot of sellout blitzes, and a well designed screen pass is the antedote to sellout blitzes, often resulting in huge plays. It didn't work in this case, but in theory, it does make some sense on paper.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #32
      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      Wilkerson and Richardson are big obstacles to a a successful run game. In cases like this, the screen game can be used to balance things out as a de facto run game. Also, Rex Ryan has the reputation for being a coach that calls a lot of sellout blitzes, and a well designed screen pass is the antedote to sellout blitzes, often resulting in huge plays. It didn't work in this case, but in theory, it does make some sense on paper.
      it felt like we were forcing screen plays because it looked good on paper.

      I think it could have worked if we sprinkled them in but there was one series where we tried a screen on back to back plays.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • WindyCitySteel
        Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 15684

        #33
        Originally posted by RobinCole
        Windy, where do you get the notion that they "reverted to turtle ball" against the Jets? In that game they passed 43 times and ran 17 times. How is that "turtle ball"? In any case they fell behind 17-0 early, so even if they had planned to play "turtle ball", that plan went out the window. Ben and Brown did not have a good game. The OL did not have a good game. Even Suisham did not have a good game. Four turnovers is what beat us. Turtle ball had zilch to do with it.

        By the way, against Tampa we had 41 passes and 27 runs. Again, not turtle ball.
        Those numbers are skewed because they were down by two scores early. The passing game vs. the Jets was horizontal the entire game. The Jets were giving up TD passes at a record pace, and the Steelers went all screeny on them.

        [url]https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/status/532345993183113216/photo/1[/url]

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        • BradshawsHairdresser
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 7056

          #34
          Originally posted by Slapstick
          No reason to press when you fall behind by 10
          in the first...
          Yet that's what they were doing. Again, blame goes on the players...but some of it goes on the coaches, too.

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          • sick beats
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2013
            • 2144

            #35
            Originally posted by bostonsteeler
            To be fair, both teams were doing it. The refs seemed to be letting these things slip today.
            I wouldn't say they let it "slip" I'd say they got back to calling a FOOTBALL game how it was intended.

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            • TheRig77
              Banned
              • Nov 2014
              • 19

              #36
              Originally posted by RobinCole
              Windy, where do you get the notion that they "reverted to turtle ball" against the Jets? In that game they passed 43 times and ran 17 times.
              Good grief. People still do this garbage?

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              • tiproast
                Starter
                • Nov 2010
                • 643

                #37
                You guys are supposed to be talking about the Pats, and cheatin', and running up the score, and Kraft buying the referees, and that kind of stuff.

                Nothing worse than an OT thread that goes OT.

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                • RobinCole
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1358

                  #38
                  TheRig77: So running 17 times (about 4 times per quarter) is turtle ball? Your garbage reeks. Are people still this stupid?

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                  • NorthCoast
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #39
                    On a site not to be named they did a good breakdown of the "breakdowns" on offense. The OL had fails in multiple plays at critical points. The analysis showed it was a different player fail on each play. One thing I noticed on a goalline run, 3 Steeler OL were on the ground before the runner was down.

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