I wish we were more like the Pats

[RuthlessBurgher]

As my dad used to say, you can wish in one hand and sh!t in the other then see which one fills up first.

I had a big breakfast. I'll with the latter.

[feltdizz]

Against the Jets, he was put in a situation where all he had to do was not turn the ball over...

Let Ben play his brand of football and then judge him on how he performs. It's not fair to ask a QB with 12 TD's in 2 games to go back to ball control, dink and dunk that WASN'T working this year.

We put Ben in a position to have to save us from ourselves instead of letting him continue to go down field.

My problem with Tomlin and Haley in the Jets game is we shut down our passing attack before the Jets had a chance to prove they could do it.

[Slapstick]

It is absolutely fair...he gets paid a lot of money to execute a game plan and not turn the ball over...

Ben is on board with Haley's play calling...

[feltdizz]

It is absolutely fair...he gets paid a lot of money to execute a game plan and not turn the ball over...

Ben is on board with Haley's play calling...

Sometimes a QB throws a bad INT or a DB makes a great play on the ball.

Ben may be on board but that doesn't mean the plays are going to result in TD's and W's.

Ask any HOFer QB to throw 8 passes behind ot at the LOS to start a game and see how productive they are...

[RuthlessBurgher]

Let Ben play his brand of football and then judge him on how he performs. It's not fair to ask a QB with 12 TD's in 2 games to go back to ball control, dink and dunk that WASN'T working this year.

We put Ben in a position to have to save us from ourselves instead of letting him continue to go down field.

My problem with Tomlin and Haley in the Jets game is we shut down our passing attack before the Jets had a chance to prove they could do it.

How is throwing 43 times and running 17 times considered shutting down our passing attack?

[sick beats]

Wow, did the Pats' game ever make this post on cue or what? They did exactly what I said they do: kept the gas pedal floored! Brady and Belichick did it again - they always do. Once again they are one of the best teams in the NFL, AGAIN! They simply are smarter than the rest of the league. You will never see them post a 1-8 record against sub .200 teams, ever.

[feltdizz]

How is throwing 43 times and running 17 times considered shutting down our passing attack?

I should have been clearer... I mean the passing attack of the previous 2 weeks that went down field.

[feltdizz]

Wow, did the Pats' game ever make this post on cue or what? They did exactly what I said they do: kept the gas pedal floored! Brady and Belichick did it again - they always do. Once again they are one of the best teams in the NFL, AGAIN! They simply are smarter than the rest of the league. You will never see them post a 1-8 record against sub .200 teams, ever.

how many SB's have they won the last 10 years?

[RuthlessBurgher]

Wow, did the Pats' game ever make this post on cue or what? They did exactly what I said they do: kept the gas pedal floored! Brady and Belichick did it again - they always do. Once again they are one of the best teams in the NFL, AGAIN! They simply are smarter than the rest of the league. You will never see them post a 1-8 record against sub .200 teams, ever.

They ran the ball 45 times and passed 30 times. If the Steelers did that, it would be called Turtle Ball, Marty Ball, Cowher Ball, Still Living in the 70's 3-Yards-And-A-Cloud-Of-Dust Bygone Era instead of the Modern-Day Passing NFL. But instead it's genious.

[Shawn]

how many SB's have they won the last 10 years?

Two having gone to a third.

[Shawn]

They ran the ball 45 times and passed 30 times. If the Steelers did that, it would be called Turtle Ball, Marty Ball, Cowher Ball, Still Living in the 70's 3-Yards-And-A-Cloud-Of-Dust Bygone Era instead of the Modern-Day Passing NFL. But instead it's genious.

Not sure that is a fair assessment. The Pats went with what was working. When your running game is running at 5.2 a clip, you run the ball. It's considered Marty or Cowher ball when you are doing it over and over again when it's not working.

[sick beats]

They ran the ball 45 times and passed 30 times. If the Steelers did that, it would be called Turtle Ball, Marty Ball, Cowher Ball, Still Living in the 70's 3-Yards-And-A-Cloud-Of-Dust Bygone Era instead of the Modern-Day Passing NFL. But instead it's genious.

They put up 42 points, caving their skulls in. If the run is working, and you are smashing their grills in, then you do it. They found yet ANOTHER no name running back to get the job done. Belichick knew Indy was susceptible to the power rushing game (he crushed them with it last play offs) and formed a great game plan to take advantage of it, but it's not like they didn't also keep throwing it as well. You want to start trying to criticize Belichick's ability to game plan, and you're gonna be up way past your bed time.

[sick beats]

Not sure that is a fair assessment. The Pats went with what was working. When your running game is running at 5.2 a clip, you run the ball. It's considered Marty or Cowher ball when you are doing it over and over again when it's not working.

Shawn is right again. When you punk them, beating them by 22 and scoring 42, I'd say claiming they were playing "turtle ball" is beyond ignorant. No one who actually understands that term would ever say that was a game of turtle ball. They were not only destroying them with running the ball, but continued to score all game long. That is NOT turtle ball. Turtle ball is endlessly running up the middle but not moving the chains or scoring in the hopes that a 3 point lead will hold up. Belichick has NEVER called plays in such a manner.

[Slapstick]

Two having gone to a third.

They are 1-2 in SBs over the last ten years...ask the same question next season, and it will, at best, still be 1-2...at worst 0-2...

[WindyCitySteel]

This article highlights the Steelers' woes against bad teams. Hope the MNF crew hits this hard tonight.

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