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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27204

    #61
    Originally posted by Shawn
    And we were calling for his head and the head of anyone within the organization during those seasons.
    it was foolish then, and its foolish now.

    6 straight playoffs seasons and fans wanted Cowher fired as soon as he had a losing season. LOL
    Last edited by feltdizz; 10-20-2014, 10:32 AM.
    Steelers 27
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    • RuthlessBurgher
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      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #62
      Originally posted by pfelix73
      Yea, I agree too. And look who's job it was to get the right mix of depth on this team in order to re stock the shelves, so to speak, when guys like Farrior, Hampton, etc. leave for retirement, etc.

      I think to some degree we have to discuss Colbert's inability to restock those shelves with quality personnel. Remember when we had Porter backing up a Lloyd? just to name 1 example. We had capable personnel ready to come in and start. I know the draft is crap shot and you never know who will and who won't pan out, but that's no excuse. Colbert gets the big bucks to figure that out. Same goes for the cap and FA's. For a long time now, we really haven't brought in any high caliber FA's- like a Farrior. Or traded for a Jerome Bettis.. Those do come along very rarely, but still...No excuses, it's his job to work the cap and hire the personnel. Right now, I'm reading that Suh from Detroit may be on the trading block. If there is any possibility of wanting to switch over to a 4-3 down the road, maybe adding a player of his caliber would be a wise consideration. He's a football player, and I think would be a huge addition. Just an opinion on my part, but just saying, they gotta get some more talent on this team via FA and not just hoping on draft development all the time. Gotta be a mix there..

      So, yea, it's time to put some blame on the GM...
      Suh's cap hit is bigger than Ben's right now. They reason that he may be on the outs in Detroit is because they cannot afford him while also giving big dollars to Calvin Johnson and Matt Stafford as well.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Ghost
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        • May 2008
        • 6240

        #63
        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        Suh's cap hit is bigger than Ben's right now. They reason that he may be on the outs in Detroit is because they cannot afford him while also giving big dollars to Calvin Johnson and Matt Stafford as well.
        It may also have something to do with him publicly telling people he wants out of Detroit and would love to play for a NYC team before the season even started. Do'h... It would be hard for me to plop down that kind of coin for a guy, no matter how great, that's actively lobbying to play in another city.
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        • Oviedo
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          • May 2008
          • 23771

          #64
          Originally posted by Ghost
          It may also have something to do with him publicly telling people he wants out of Detroit and would love to play for a NYC team before the season even started. Do'h... It would be hard for me to plop down that kind of coin for a guy, no matter how great, that's actively lobbying to play in another city.
          Would you want to live in Detriot? May be the least desireable city in America to live. Parts of the city look like they should be a suburb of the Gaza Strip.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • papillon
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            • Mar 2008
            • 11337

            #65
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Would you want to live in Detriot? May be the least desireable city in America to live. Parts of the city look like they should be a suburb of the Gaza Strip.
            No, I wouldn't want to live in Detroit, but for 14, 15 or 16 ,million per year I would be able to keep my mouth shut, do my job and live in the nicest suburbs that my pay check would allow; I'm old school, appreciate what you get, don't bite the hand that feeds you and don't burn a bridge, you just never know.

            Pappy
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            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27204

              #66
              Originally posted by papillon
              No, I wouldn't want to live in Detroit, but for 14, 15 or 16 ,million per year I would be able to keep my mouth shut, do my job and live in the nicest suburbs that my pay check would allow; I'm old school, appreciate what you get, don't bite the hand that feeds you and don't burn a bridge, you just never know.

              Pappy
              Yep... people act like these players have to live in the hood.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • hawaiiansteel
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                • May 2008
                • 35303

                #67

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                • BradshawsHairdresser
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #68
                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  Love to watch that.

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                  • bostonsteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1529

                    #69
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    it was foolish then, and its foolish now.

                    6 straight playoffs seasons and fans wanted Cowher fired as soon as he had a losing season. LOL
                    Actually, it was after two. He appeared boneheaded and stubborn, with his silly "impose our will" motto.
                    In retrospect, the "impose our will" was good stuff, with Kreider and the Bus. Put in a BB there as QB and we probably win an SB or two more.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35303

                      #70
                      You've got to hand it to defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau. He'll do the unexpected at times to get results.

                      LeBeau had the Steelers play a lot of nickel defense in this game. And early on, when Arian Foster ran for 59 yards on his first five carries, it was looking like folly.

                      But LeBeau kept shifting and changing, mixing in the base defense at times, even when the Texans stayed with three-wide receiver sets, forcing the Texans to do what he wanted them to do at times.

                      "That was coach LeBeau's strategy," said Timmons.

                      It seemed to have worked. After averaging more than 10 yards per carry on the opening drive, Foster had 43 yards on his final 15 attempts.

                      [URL]http://pit.scout.com/story/1471214-thoughts-from-the-pressbox?s=68[/URL]

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
                        • 35303

                        #71
                        Linebacker Harrison coming along slowly since return to Steelers

                        By Ralph N. Paulk
                        Friday, Oct. 24, 2014



                        The Texans' Alfred Blue scores between Steelers linebackers Lawrence Timmons and James Harrison during the first quarter Monday, Oct. 20, 2014, at Heinz Field.

                        James Harrison has had four games to dust off the cobwebs after re-signing with the Steelers in late September. There has been time enough, too, to lubricate his squeaky wheels.

                        Or, so it seems.

                        The 36-year-old linebacker acknowledged it has been difficult to recapture the swagger that made him an intimidating presence on the field. He isn't exploding off the blocks to put any semblance of heat on quarterbacks.

                        That, of course, must change when the Steelers face Colts quarterback Andrew Luck — one of the league's most proficient passers — on Sunday at Heinz Field. Luck has been sacked only 11 times on 302 pass attempts.

                        Clearly, it appears a bad time for a former NFL Defensive Player of the Year to wonder if the fear factor is lost.

                        “I'm not there yet,” he said. “Not even close.”

                        The numbers are reflective of his struggle to hit his stride. He is without a sack and has only seven unassisted tackles on 116 snaps from scrimmage.

                        “I'm in the process of going in the right direction and getting back into playing shape,” said Harrison, who will split time with starter Arthur Moats. “I'm basically coming out of preseason right now.

                        “I feel a lot better than I did four weeks ago. I'm starting to be able to play more because I'm getting more conditioned. I'm seeing things better because I'm moving better.”

                        Left outside linebacker Jason Worilds are confident Harrison still possesses fight and game.

                        “If you've been around (Harrison), you know that while some people think they will get better with time, you know he's going to get better,” Worilds said. “We've watched him progressed every week.”

                        The Steelers could have explored other options before luring Harrison out of retirement. But his knowledge of defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau's defense made him an attractive, if not logical option when second-year linebacker Jarvis Jones suffered a right wrist injury that has him out indefinitely.

                        “Just having someone who understands the defense makes it a lot easier,” said Harrison, who spent last season with the Bengals. “Some of the new things they do, I've learned since I've been back.”

                        Admittedly, Harrison never felt at ease playing the Bengals' defensive scheme.

                        “I never got a chance to get comfortable because I played only in the base defense,” he said. “It got to a point where I was playing only 10 to 12 snaps a game.”

                        The Steelers will need his pass-rush skills against the usually unflappable Luck.

                        “They pass a lot more than they run, but what I do depends on what (LeBeau) calls,” Harrison said. “We have to find a way to get consistent pressure on Luck and we have to disrupt the timing of their routes by jamming the receivers.”

                        Harrison insists the linebackers – mostly Moats and Worilds – will have to hem Luck inside the pocket. If so, the Steelers are willing to concede the short check-off passes to Trent Richardson and Ahmad Bradshaw, who have a combined 43 receptions.

                        But cornerback Brice McCain said the only sure way to get to Luck is by locking down receivers T.Y. Hilton and Hakeem Nicks.

                        Yet, with Harrison getting his legs back and playing at full strength, the expectations are he will add something to a rather timid pass rush.

                        “Luck will stand in there with pressure and take a hit,” Harrison said. “He's not afraid to do the dirty work. So when a guy comes free, he stands in there.”

                        [URL]http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/7001081-74/harrison-luck-steelers#ixzz3HB9ZKmvO[/URL]

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                        • Oviedo
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                          • May 2008
                          • 23771

                          #72
                          ...and at this pace by the time Harrison gets back season will be over. It's not a matter of getting his legs back, it is a matter of being washed up. His signing was pure desperation.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • RobinCole
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1358

                            #73
                            Signing anyone who's available four weeks into the season is an act of desperation. Injuries will happen. We lost two starting LBs in about ten minutes. Who else was out there that we should have signed?

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                            • Ernie
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                              • Aug 2013
                              • 8470

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              ...and at this pace by the time Harrison gets back season will be over. It's not a matter of getting his legs back, it is a matter of being washed up. His signing was pure desperation.
                              He didn't look washed up to me this evening.

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                              • Captain Lemming
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 15979

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Ernie
                                He didn't look washed up to me this evening.
                                Some people are disappointed.
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                                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                                TCFCLTC-
                                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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