Why does DL get a free pass...

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

I'm not concerned with the DL. My concern right now is at OLB. Harrison looked old & slow....Which he is. Don't know if football shape will help that. I'm concerned about the snap counts between Moats & Harrison. To me that says the don't have confidence in Moats as a 3 down player. That is the BIGGEST concern on defense right now. Lack of pressure from the OLB & there may be nobody on the roster to help that. There may be some help...If the Steelers want to explore something.

IF Foster is healthy..There may be an option. Pick up the phone & bring in Victor Butler for a workout. If he shows he can get on the field now (knee healed)...You sign him. Cut Hubbard & sign to PS. Release Ventrone. Get Butler up to speed ASAP!

[phillyesq]

I'm not concerned with the DL. My concern right now is at OLB. Harrison looked old & slow....Which he is. Don't know if football shape will help that. I'm concerned about the snap counts between Moats & Harrison. To me that says the don't have confidence in Moats as a 3 down player. That is the BIGGEST concern on defense right now. Lack of pressure from the OLB & there may be nobody on the roster to help that. There may be some help...If the Steelers want to explore something.

IF Foster is healthy..There may be an option. Pick up the phone & bring in Victor Butler for a workout. If he shows he can get on the field now (knee healed)...You sign him. Cut Hubbard & sign to PS. Release Ventrone. Get Butler up to speed ASAP!

Butler was just cut by the Cardinals, which leads me to believe that he is not healthy yet, but I'd absolutely bring him in to kick the tires.

As for Harrison, he certainly isn't the guy who was the DMVP. The frightening thing is that there were a number of times when he still looked better than Worilds.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Butler was just cut by the Cardinals, which leads me to believe that he is not healthy yet, but I'd absolutely bring him in to kick the tires.

As for Harrison, he certainly isn't the guy who was the DMVP. The frightening thing is that there were a number of times when he still looked better than Worilds.

That's why I said you bring him in for a work out. Okafor is back healthy & the Cardinals signed Desmond Bishop & cut Butler. Have to see if health of his knee is a factor.

[Slapstick]

There are lots of DCs who could have walked into that 2004 team and had great success. It was loaded with studs in their prime. Same with 1995.

On his fourth **** year here and 8 bad ones in Cincy - that's 12 by my count .

Perhaps other coaches could have come to Pittsburgh and has success, but they didn't...

LeBeau did and the Steelers haven't played in a SB with any other DC...

[Slapstick]

The FO doesn't pick players in a vacuum. The coaching staff is heavily involved in the draft and FA process.

Do they have "that guy" for the 3-4? You keep saying we don't have the guys for the 4-3 and act like we have them for the 3-4 which is proving more laughable this year than the past three. Perhaps we don't have that guy because we don't draft the DE who can step in and play and instead draft a conversion project and wait 2-3 years and hope it works out. I'll guarantee if we were playing the 4-3, our picks would have been different as you well know.

With nothing but conjecture to suggest that those players would be any better...

[phillyesq]

That's why I said you bring him in for a work out. Okafor is back healthy & the Cardinals signed Desmond Bishop & cut Butler. Have to see if health of his knee is a factor.

I agree with you. Given the way Worilds has played thus far, the Steelers need to look at not only options for this year, but also depth down the road.

[feltdizz]

Butler was just cut by the Cardinals, which leads me to believe that he is not healthy yet, but I'd absolutely bring him in to kick the tires.

As for Harrison, he certainly isn't the guy who was the DMVP. The frightening thing is that there were a number of times when he still looked better than Worilds.

yep... Harrison wasn't Deebo but it was also his first game after sitting on the couch. He still looked just as good as the rest of our OLB's.

[NorthCoast]

I think the team is the Packers...

Give the man a cigar. You are correct.

[URL]http://mmqb.si.com/2014/09/11/packers-patriots-defense-problems/[/URL]

[NJ-STEELER]

Why does the Bears defense stink? t?

they might not rank high. but they absolutely were responsible for winning that game in san fran by forcing 4-5 turnovers.

and again versus the jets had a defensive TD along with more turnovers.

when's the last time you can say that about the steelers defnse

[NorthCoast]

they might not rank high. but they absolutely were responsible for winning that game in san fran by forcing 4-5 turnovers.

and again versus the jets had a defensive TD along with more turnovers.

when's the last time you can say that about the steelers defnse

I guess you forgot last season vs GB, PIT ahead by 7, GB driving to PIT 6 yd line and the Defense held them out.

[Slapstick]

I guess you forgot last season vs GB, PIT ahead by 7, GB driving to PIT 6 yd line and the Defense held them out.

And the defense scored a TD...

[bostonsteeler]

And the defense scored a TD...

And who was the QB for Greenbay?

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Whatever happens, it’s clear that this team has been facing the SAME issues over the course of the past 3 years, so to expect it to just suddenly get better seems unrealistic.

*scratches chin* remind me again... what coaching changes happened 3 years ago...???

[fezziwig]

This defense is bad because we never addressed aging players. The Steelers bring in players that show no sign of development and do not develop. You allow Keshawn Lewis to take up space, teach him, see that he is doing well and then allow him to leave hen, you know you have stove hand Ike and a unproven in Cortez Allen. So they panic and sign Allen and all he proved is he wasn't worth the signing. Why did it take them so long to earn what everyone else knew Ziggy Hood shouldn't be on this team. I don't know if the defense does get a pass or not but, who on this defense is worth anything to declare they are not living up to their talent level ? Someone needs to look long and hard at who is giving the green light to select these players. Then we need coaches that can determine in less than four seasons if the guy can play ball or not.

[NorthCoast]

This defense is bad because we never addressed aging players. The Steelers bring in players that show no sign of development and do not develop. You allow Keshawn Lewis to take up space, teach him, see that he is doing well and then allow him to leave hen, you know you have stove hand Ike and a unproven in Cortez Allen. So they panic and sign Allen and all he proved is he wasn't worth the signing. Why did it take them so long to earn what everyone else knew Ziggy Hood shouldn't be on this team. I don't know if the defense does get a pass or not but, who on this defense is worth anything to declare they are not living up to their talent level ? Someone needs to look long and hard at who is giving the green light to select these players. Then we need coaches that can determine in less than four seasons if the guy can play ball or not.

No. This defense is struggling because of lack of talent and the new CBA limiting contact during practices. Walk-throughs 5 days a week doesn't prepare a rookie or 2nd year player for an NFL game on Sunday. If it was up to the coaches, I am sure they would be in pads every day.