The Steelers way.. One thing I don't understand

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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    The Steelers way.. One thing I don't understand

    Why do they sign their own players that are mediocre (Gilbert )Instead of going after known big time players, The Dolphins tackle comes to mind who signed a few years back for about the same amount of cash. At first I thought it was a decent contract but looking at his play and the amount of sacks he allowed last year (13) I think ,it seems like a waste of a signing to me.
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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    It's called a salary cap that has forces you to but Fords and Chevys versus BMW and Mercedes. When you have a franchise QB who consumes like one-sixth of your cap you have to shop for your "second car" at a more affordable dealer. Watch what happens to Seattle once their QB gets his next contract. You are starting to see the effects in SF now that Kapernick got his money.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      It's called a salary cap that has forces you to but Fords and Chevys versus BMW and Mercedes. When you have a franchise QB who consumes like one-sixth of your cap you have to shop for your "second car" at a more affordable dealer. Watch what happens to Seattle once their QB gets his next contract. You are starting to see the effects in SF now that Kapernick got his money.
      they stomped Dallas...

      until I actually see a decline from the 49ers I will take a wait and see approach. I think Kaep's deal is cap friendly but don't quote me on it.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • Steelhere10
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3849

        #4
        That's a good point, but Gilbert ain't making chump change. So why not spend it on a BMW instead of a Yugo.
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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          they stomped Dallas...

          until I actually see a decline from the 49ers I will take a wait and see approach. I think Kaep's deal is cap friendly but don't quote me on it.
          Effect may not be immediate but over the next two years or so they won't be able to keep some players they would like to and their depth will suffer. I agree that they won't go off the ledge THIS season.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • K Train
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2014
            • 3685

            #6
            Kaepernicks deal is friendly in that they can cut him after a few years without being on the hook, but as long as hes there its a pricy deal.

            They also have to work out a deal for Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Aldon smith if they decide to retain him past the 2015 option, Mike Iupati, they also have cap hits of $8m, $9m, $9m, and $10m over the next 4 years for bowman, and they have to decide if they are going to pay willis again to retire a 49er.

            Not in bad shape right now, but theyve got some young, cheap talent that wont last much longer at the current price tag

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            • steelsnis
              Starter
              • Dec 2008
              • 980

              #7
              The NFL's salary structure is absolutely designed so no one team stays alone at the top for very long. Good teams find ways to rebound without having disastrous, bottom-scraping years. The Steelers are currently in the re-build process after going to 3 (and winning 2) Super Bowls in the last 10-years.

              I see them getting better and better as the year moves forward and finishing at 10-6 this season. If 8-8 is "scraping the bottom" for this team then we as Steelers fans have to consider ourselves very lucky!

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              • buccoray61
                Starter
                • Jul 2009
                • 945

                #8
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                It's called a salary cap that has forces you to but Fords and Chevys versus BMW and Mercedes. When you have a franchise QB who consumes like one-sixth of your cap you have to shop for your "second car" at a more affordable dealer. Watch what happens to Seattle once their QB gets his next contract. You are starting to see the effects in SF now that Kapernick got his money.
                ^ There it is!

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                • sick beats
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 2144

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steelhere10
                  Why do they sign their own players that are mediocre (Gilbert )Instead of going after known big time players, The Dolphins tackle comes to mind who signed a few years back for about the same amount of cash. At first I thought it was a decent contract but looking at his play and the amount of sacks he allowed last year (13) I think ,it seems like a waste of a signing to me.
                  I couldn't agree more. We get a new OL coach, and giving Gilbert a new deal and.......................he still sucks. I have maintained all along that Gilbert is good at two things: holding calls and letting the DE blow by him. Last game just proved my point further. Gilbert sucks and the Steelers were fools to sign him to a new deal. I mean, how can they be this stupid? This is their job.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Effect may not be immediate but over the next two years or so they won't be able to keep some players they would like to and their depth will suffer. I agree that they won't go off the ledge THIS season.
                    Depends on if these teams win a SB and try to keep old vets for one last run.

                    Maybe they lose a few players but I don't think we will see the drop off some are expecting unless .500 is considered falling off a cliff.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #11
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Depends on if these teams win a SB and try to keep old vets for one last run.

                      Maybe they lose a few players but I don't think we will see the drop off some are expecting unless .500 is considered falling off a cliff.
                      Only in Pittsburgh....
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        Only in Pittsburgh....
                        Seriously... some of the losses were ugly but we still grinded out 8 wins while shedding a ton of vets and losing players like Keenan Lewis and Mike Wallace.

                        I think we are ready to make a eu the next few years once this D gets it together.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • skyhawk
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3732

                          #13
                          The Seahawks have drafted and developed players.

                          The Steelers, as of late, have not.

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                          • steelsnis
                            Starter
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 980

                            #14
                            Originally posted by skyhawk
                            The Seahawks have drafted and developed players.

                            The Steelers, as of late, have not.
                            See, I don't get this narrative.

                            Since 2010, the Steelers have drafted and developed the following players:

                            Antonio Brown, Jason Worilds, Maurkice Pouncey, Cortez Allen, Marcus Gilbert, Cam Heyward David Decastro, Sean Spence, Kelvin Beachum, Jarvis Jones, Leveon Bell, Markus Wheaton, Shamarko Thomas. Not to mention Stephon Tuitt, Ryan Shazier, Dri Archer and the rest of this year's class. And this doesn't even account for those that were drafted but have left via free agency.

                            All of these guys are or are projecting to be major factors for the Steelers moving forward.
                            Last edited by steelsnis; 09-08-2014, 08:31 PM.

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                            • sick beats
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 2144

                              #15
                              Originally posted by steelsnis
                              See, I don't get this narrative.

                              Since 2010, the Steelers have drafted and developed the following players:

                              Antonio Brown, Jason Worilds, Maurkice Pouncey, Cortez Allen, Marcus Gilbert, Cam Heyward David Decastro, Sean Spence, Kelvin Beachum, Jarvis Jones, Leveon Bell, Markus Wheaton, Shamarko Thomas. Not to mention Stephon Tuitt, Ryan Shazier, Dri Archer and the rest of this year's class. And this doesn't even account for those that were drafted but have left via free agency.

                              All of these guys are or are projecting to be major factors for the Steelers moving forward.
                              You had a point until you included Gilbert on that list.

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