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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #61
    The Steelers will sit tight & take the player that falls to #15 without panic. Why pass up a potentially 'elite' player to acquire an extra 'good' player?
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

    Light up the darkness.

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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 16041

      #62
      Originally posted by Chadman
      The Steelers will sit tight & take the player that falls to #15 without panic. Why pass up a potentially 'elite' player to acquire an extra 'good' player?
      Its not panic to listen to offers.
      San Fran has a first, 2 seconds and 3 thirds a fourth faith sixth and 3 sevenths, and a loaded roster.
      Plenty of trade bait. They are loaded, so they need to burn some of those picks and can afford to be generous in order to move up.

      We however have plenty of holes to fill.


      Something to keep in mind, "potentially elite" can be found anywhere in the draft. Higher increases the odds true. But in a deep draft swapping firsts can land you, an extra second, and a 4th you have three shots at elite or several good players.


      Lets look at two receivers on this team.


      One is the highest drafted player on the entire roster, Heyward-Bey round one Number 7.


      The other is a SIXTH ROUND PICK the 125th player drafted. He is a 2 time Pro Bowler and has been voted team MVP TWICE.
      That 6th round pick, Antonio Brown......has all time NFL RECORDS from next to his name. One in 2011 and one in 2013.

      I for for one would be very interested in talking to the Niners.

      I have a feeling whoever deals with them will get much more that typical value in a swap with them.
      sigpic



      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • thetruthteller
        Backup
        • May 2014
        • 294

        #63
        Denver Post Broncos‏@PostBroncos·3 mins
        Draft buzz: Johnny Manziel to No. 3 Jacksonville; Blake Bortles to No. 4 Cleveland: [url]http://dpo.st/1s3F1Yb[/url] by @MikeKlis

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 35648

          #64
          It's time for the NFL draft: Day 1, Round 1

          May 7, 2014
          By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

          Today, there are reputations on the line, jobs at risk, money and the future at stake.

          Selecting players in the NFL draft? Nah, that is the easy part. Predicting who will draft whom is where it gets dicey.

          This is a tough business, these mock drafts. For a shortstop, hitting .333 should be all-star quality, yet, in mock drafts, getting one out of three right only brings ridicule. Even if general manager Kevin Colbert cannot say with assurance whether the player the Steelers covet still will be available to them tonight at No. 15, the mock drafters are expected to know.

          That is, if the Steelers stay put at No. 15. What happens if they make a trade and move down to 19 or 20? That certainly blows a hole through the whole mock draft thing. In 1987, we suggested that the Steelers trade up from No. 10 in the draft, and our mock draft actually reflected that mock trade. We picked Rod Woodson for them.

          The Steelers did not trade, stayed at No. 10 and still drafted Woodson. We were wrong, but we were right!

          And what if Jay Glazier is wrong, and the Cleveland Browns select Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel at No. 3? Reshuffle the entire deck.

          Let’s start with some logic, which can leave the building at any time in the NFL draft. We assume the Steelers will not select a quarterback, a halfback, a center or a guard tonight. What does that leave? Plenty.

          Other teams, though, will help here. There are only three offensive tackles, for example, worthy of being selected in the first 20 picks, or so all those experts say. They will be long gone by 15. So scratch offensive tackle.

          Then there are the defensive linemen, of which the Steelers could use one or two. Not many of those are projected for the top half of the first round, either, and those who are will be gone, including our pick at No. 1 overall, South Carolina’s Jadeveon Clowney.

          The Steelers also could use linebackers for depth and maybe even to start inside, or, if Jason Worilds decides not to stay, on the outside one more year. Colbert said Monday that just because they drafted Jarvis Jones first a year ago does not preclude them from drafting an outside linebacker first this year.

          But, again, it looks as if the two outside linebackers judged worthy of the top 15 — Khalil Mack of Buffalo and Anthony Barr of UCLA — will be long gone when it comes the Steelers’ turn. An intriguing prospect at inside linebacker, C.J. Mosley of Alabama, could be had, but we’re guessing the Steelers go elsewhere.

          Safety? It looked like a crying need before they signed Mike Mitchell, who is young enough to stick around for a while to team with Shamarko Thomas as their safety duo of the future. And there’s no sense drafting a tight end in the first round with Heath Miller still viable. Plus, Eric Ebron just is not their type.

          The math yields what is left: Wide receiver and cornerback, both needs.

          The Steelers long for a tall receiver for Ben Roethlisberger and would love someone such as 6-foot-5 Mike Evans of Texas A&M. Sorry, if they really wanted him they should have lost a few more games because Evans will be snapped up long before their turn.

          How about Florida State’s 6-5 Kelvin Benjamin? Maybe. Some mock drafts do have them grabbing him at No. 15. We think that’s too high. He still could be their pick, but only if they trade down in the first round.

          Others give LSU wide receiver Odell Beckham to the Steelers. But he is 5-11, and Oregon State’s Brandin Cooks, a lightning-fast playmaker, is 5-10. Antonio Brown has shown you do not need to be tall to make plays (Lynn Swann did, too), but the Steelers would like contrast here.

          Those receivers remain possibilities, but not ours. We favor a cornerback, one of two, either Darqueze Dennard of Michigan State or Justin Gilbert of Oklahoma State. They are similar in size, both around 200 pounds, with Dennard at 5-11 compared to Gilbert at 6-0. Another possible corner for them might be Kyle Fuller of Virginia Tech, especially if they drop down.

          Many mocks have paired one of those three cornerbacks with the Steelers in the first round, and there seems to be little consensus on their 1-2-3 ranking.

          We will go with Gilbert as the Steelers pick at No. 15. He has the size and is the fastest of the bunch. It’s not that the other two are slow, but Gilbert has speed the others do not have. There is an old theory that you should not pick a slow or small player in the first round. If you start making exceptions, you wind up with a team that is small and slow.

          Gilbert is neither. He would be the first cornerback drafted in the first round by the Steelers in 17 years, since Chad Scott in 1997. By drafting him, they would hope he also would become their second Pro Bowl cornerback since the 1982 season.

          The Steelers need to invest heavily in rebuilding their suddenly no-name defense. Drafting Gilbert in the first round would be a start.

          [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2014/05/08/It-s-time-for-the-NFL-draft-Day-1-Round-1/stories/201405080169#ixzz315sRbYSf[/URL]

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          • thetruthteller
            Backup
            • May 2014
            • 294

            #65
            Mark Kaboly‏@MarkKaboly_Trib·15 mins
            My mock:
            1 D.Dennard CB
            2 M.Bryant WR
            3 J.Jeffcoat DE
            4 C.Jones LB
            5 D.Archer RB
            5 M.Patchen OT
            6 P.Shembo LB
            6 N.Williams S
            7 J.Brown WR

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            • thetruthteller
              Backup
              • May 2014
              • 294

              #66
              Mark Kaboly‏@MarkKaboly_Trib·7 mins
              #Steelers WR Antonio Brown switches agents from Drew Rosenhaus to Jay Z (@RocNation)

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              • buccoray61
                Starter
                • Jul 2009
                • 945

                #67
                Originally posted by sick beats
                God, please let the Browns pass on Johnny Football for Bridgewater. That would be so Cleveland. No QB is a sure thing, but I like JM MUCH better than TB, who has a pop gun arm, can't throw deep, is too slight from a physical stance. If they pass on JM, we should have a party. According to a few of the top draft gurus, TB isn't even ready for the NFL yet; they say he needs a year or TWO before he will even be ready to play QB in this league. I think I heard that from Mayock and McShay say the same thing. I would take JM over any of the QBs. He has that special winning trait. He will have to learn some things, no doubt, but he has a high IQ and an immense football IQ.
                I have the complete opposite view on Manziel and the Browns. I hope Cleveland takes him at four. It will leave more position players for the Steelers to chose from,the more QB's that are taken early. I hold the Merril Hoge view on JM. He plays by the seat of his pants,and has no concept of offensive structure. If the Browns take him in the first round,I predict he will be the third first round QB bust in the last several years Quinn,Weeden and not to mention Colt McCoy in the second.

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                • thetruthteller
                  Backup
                  • May 2014
                  • 294

                  #68
                  Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet·2 hrs
                  #Jets have reached out to teams about moving up in the first round. They’ve spoken with the #Titans, among others. WRs likely the target.




                  Jets are said to be targeting Beckham as a WR. And they may think that the Steelers pick is not high enough to get him. So we may be out of any trade down with the Jets.





                  Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet·2 hrs
                  Two teams that have also talked about a trade (this is a big surprise): #Ravens and #Niners. May be a past relationship there. #Bro




                  We all figured this one...Harbaugh dealing with the other Harbaugh in a trade up to the Ravens pick at 17. SF wants a WR as well. May have Cooks or Lee on their minds. But I would guess it is Cooks.

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                  • thetruthteller
                    Backup
                    • May 2014
                    • 294

                    #69
                    Tom Curran of CSN New England reports that a trade sending Ryan Mallett from the Patriots to the Texans “may soon be done.” Curran stresses it’s not a done deal, but that the “machinations have begun.”



                    Great. The Pats getting more picks. If they get a 3rd, or God forbid a 2nd from Houston for Mallett..who is a piece of...you know what...I will go Crazy!!

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #70
                      Originally posted by thetruthteller
                      Denver Post Broncos‏@PostBroncos·3 mins

                      Draft buzz: Johnny Manziel to No. 3 Jacksonville;
                      rumor has it that Manziel's agent contacted Jacksonville to notify them that Johnny does not wish to play football there.

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                      • buccoray61
                        Starter
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 945

                        #71
                        Not directed at anyone,but this sums it up. gregg rosenthal @greggrosenthal [URL="https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal"]Follow[/URL] The Draft is incredible, but the next handful of hours are the worst. Most of what you read is nonsense.

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                        • thetruthteller
                          Backup
                          • May 2014
                          • 294

                          #72
                          Heard on NFL Network that Houston after taking Clowney at # 1, wants to trade up from 33, ahead of Cleveland at 26 to get Teddy Bridgewater....Could we be a option for them ? Or is 33 too far to trade down ?

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                          • thor75
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1038

                            #73
                            Originally posted by thetruthteller
                            Heard on NFL Network that Houston after taking Clowney at # 1, wants to trade up from 33, ahead of Cleveland at 26 to get Teddy Bridgewater....Could we be a option for them ? Or is 33 too far to trade down ?
                            Possibly, I posted that scenario a week ago on the bold prediction thread
                            1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                            2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                            3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                            4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                            5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                            5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                            6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                            6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                            7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                            • Rara
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1305

                              #74
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              rumor has it that manziel's agent contacted jacksonville to notify them that johnny does not wish to play football there.
                              bahahaahahahahahahaa
                              2022 NFL Mock Draft
                              -------------------------------------------
                              1. Malik Willis, QB; Liberty
                              2. Daniel Faalele, OT; Minnesota
                              3. Dante Stills, DT; West Virginia
                              7. Riley Moss, CB; Iowa

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                              • steelsnis
                                Starter
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 980

                                #75
                                Watching them introduce all 30 of the players in attendance tonight. FWIW, Ebron is a BIG dude.

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