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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #16
    Originally posted by Rara
    He can't block and he has a crappy attitude. No thanks.
    Rara--that is an interesting perspective given that your mock draft has two complete train wrecks in Lyerla and Henderson in Rounds 6 and 7...talk about attitudes!

    How many games have you actually seen Ebron play. I've watched about half a dozen and his blocking is not as bad as the hype machine as build it up to be. He is also a mismatch nightmare that you would be challenged to find elsewhere in the draft. If Ozzie Newsome would take him that is enough of an endorsement for me because he is among the very best GMs and talent evaluators in the game.
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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #17
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Rara--that is an interesting perspective given that your mock draft has two complete train wrecks in Lyerla and Henderson in Rounds 6 and 7...talk about attitudes!

      How many games have you actually seen Ebron play. I've watched about half a dozen and his blocking is not as bad as the hype machine as build it up to be. He is also a mismatch nightmare that you would be challenged to find elsewhere in the draft. If Ozzie Newsome would take him that is enough of an endorsement for me because he is among the very best GMs and talent evaluators in the game.
      you answered your own question...

      rounds 6 and 7.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • pfelix73
        Hall of Famer
        • Aug 2008
        • 3458

        #18
        Well, I've seen the guy play in a few games, and I also beleive the guy can't block worth a pi$$ or for that matter catch a pass in the end zone when he needs to. I am not sure why he gets all the press when I think there are other TE's in this draft that may be better than him as an all around TE.

        He showed me nothing against my alma mater in Chapel Hill. He dropped a sure TD and really was a non factor against even I'll admit it, a mediocre defense that we were implementing...
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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #19
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Rara--that is an interesting perspective given that your mock draft has two complete train wrecks in Lyerla and Henderson in Rounds 6 and 7...talk about attitudes!

          How many games have you actually seen Ebron play. I've watched about half a dozen and his blocking is not as bad as the hype machine as build it up to be. He is also a mismatch nightmare that you would be challenged to find elsewhere in the draft. If Ozzie Newsome would take him that is enough of an endorsement for me because he is among the very best GMs and talent evaluators in the game.
          There is a huge difference in taking a chance on a pot smoking underachiever in the first/second ie Adams...and taking that chance in the 6th or 7th. I think you are intelligent enough to get that.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Originally posted by pfelix73
            Well, I've seen the guy play in a few games, and I also beleive the guy can't block worth a pi$$ or for that matter catch a pass in the end zone when he needs to. I am not sure why he gets all the press when I think there are other TE's in this draft that may be better than him as an all around TE.

            He showed me nothing against my alma mater in Chapel Hill. He dropped a sure TD and really was a non factor against even I'll admit it, a mediocre defense that we were implementing...
            From a talent perspective, Lyerla smokes Ebron...just a much better all around talent...and oh yeah the guy can block.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • thetruthteller
              Backup
              • May 2014
              • 294

              #21
              Ebron's Blocking is a work in progress. But that is because he was not asked to do that at UNC. Yes his TD numbers were not great. But that is probably because his surrounding talent at UNC Sucked. And once down close to the endzone, I remember Ebron constantly double-teamed. I mean Heath Miller was barley 5 Lbs more then Ebron when we drafted him in round 1, and Miller wasn't close Athletically or even strength wise as Ebron is. I think fans who want Ebron at 15 ( If he is even there )...is because there is a growing trend for the good teams having Two good TE's. I mean Miller and Ebron would be a devestating combo to try and cover.

              And in those times we do run the ball with both in the game, we have Miller to be the In-Line run blocker, and Ebron to be more of that receiving threat to take away the defenses 7-man fronts to guard against the run. So there can be a good argument by fans here to select Ebron at 15.

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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #22
                Originally posted by Shawn
                From a talent perspective, Lyerla smokes Ebron...just a much better all around talent...and oh yeah the guy can block.
                Lyerla smokes more than just Ebron.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • thetruthteller
                  Backup
                  • May 2014
                  • 294

                  #23
                  Marcus Martin heads to the draft

                  Posted by Mike Florio on May 2, 2014, 6:21 PM EDT


                  A new name has been added to the list of players who’ll be attending the draft on Thursday — and maybe Friday.

                  Per multiple reports, USC center Marcus Martin will head to Radio City Music Hall. Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media





                  This is surprising to me. I like Martin but, I had him more of a late 2nd early 3rd rounder. The fact that he is Invited to the drafts war room must mean that a team is looking at him in round 1.

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Lyerla smokes more than just Ebron.
                    I believe he snorts his drug of choice.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • sick beats
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 2144

                      #25
                      NFLTradeRumors.co‏@nfltrade_rumors·3 hrs
                      Browns Could Be A Landing Spot For Teddy Bridgewater At No. 26 Overall? [url]http://nfltraderumors.co/?p=94377..([/url] Maybe we can convice Cleveland to trade up with us to guarantee Bridgewater ??? )
                      God, please let the Browns pass on Johnny Football for Bridgewater. That would be so Cleveland. No QB is a sure thing, but I like JM MUCH better than TB, who has a pop gun arm, can't throw deep, is too slight from a physical stance. If they pass on JM, we should have a party. According to a few of the top draft gurus, TB isn't even ready for the NFL yet; they say he needs a year or TWO before he will even be ready to play QB in this league. I think I heard that from Mayock and McShay say the same thing. I would take JM over any of the QBs. He has that special winning trait. He will have to learn some things, no doubt, but he has a high IQ and an immense football IQ.

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                      • sick beats
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 2144

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        I heard Peter King's mock has the Steelers trading thier 1st (#15) to the Eagles for their #1 and #2. The Eagles want Odell Beckham bad. I'd love that trade.
                        It depends who we end up with after we trade out of 15. I would be bummed if it moved us out of prime CB territory.

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                        • sick beats
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 2144

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Rara
                          I wouldn't mind this at all. Getting another second rounder and dropping 7 spots...sure hope that Kyle Fuller would still be available at #22.
                          We sure could use an extra 2nd rounder. As long as they make great choices with both.

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rara
                            Yeah, I can't see why the Steelers are giving names out of who they want..not their style.
                            They actually aren't all that secretive about the guys they like. In Tomlin's first year, the whole world knew they liked Revis and Timmons. Their interest in Heath Miller was no surprise. Same with Pouncey and Cam Heyward - hardly unexpected.

                            I've heard absolutely no mention of Ebron from any source close to the team. If I'm wrong, I'll own it, but I say there is no way he is the pick.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #29
                              Originally posted by thetruthteller
                              Ebron's Blocking is a work in progress. But that is because he was not asked to do that at UNC. Yes his TD numbers were not great. But that is probably because his surrounding talent at UNC Sucked. And once down close to the endzone, I remember Ebron constantly double-teamed. I mean Heath Miller was barley 5 Lbs more then Ebron when we drafted him in round 1, and Miller wasn't close Athletically or even strength wise as Ebron is. I think fans who want Ebron at 15 ( If he is even there )...is because there is a growing trend for the good teams having Two good TE's. I mean Miller and Ebron would be a devestating combo to try and cover.

                              And in those times we do run the ball with both in the game, we have Miller to be the In-Line run blocker, and Ebron to be more of that receiving threat to take away the defenses 7-man fronts to guard against the run. So there can be a good argument by fans here to select Ebron at 15.
                              Besides the Pats who has a legit 2 TE threat that is good?
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Captain Lemming
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 16041

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Oviedo
                                I heard Peter King's mock has the Steelers trading thier 1st (#15) to the Eagles for their #1 and #2. The Eagles want Odell Beckham bad. I'd love that trade.
                                If that happens....I go Cedric if I am the Steelers. Walk away all cool...."let me get back to you". Out of sight Im doing the happy dance.

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