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  • Vader
    Backup
    • Dec 2012
    • 289

    #91
    Originally posted by steelsnis
    That's my whole point! Guys leave teams via free agency every year. You can't categorize it as "jumping ship" just because the Steelers are coming off back to back 8-8 years. Guys left during the Super Bowl years too!

    I agree with you guys that we need impact players on Defense. 100% agree. That's not happening through free agency, though. It never has with the Steelers. It has to happen through the draft and our own player development. I'm excited to see how Hayward progresses. How Worilds looks as a full-timer. How Jarvis progresses in his second season as he's reacting, not thinking.
    The Steelers have always tried to get players through the draft. However, they have often found impact players in FA. Farrior, Kimo and Clark are modern examples of this. Even signing Mitchell should be a huge impact on the defense. I'm just disappointed in the evaluation of draft talent. You need both FAs and draft talent to win. They are doing ok in FA but their drafts have been below the line the past few years.

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #92
      Originally posted by Vader
      The Steelers have always tried to get players through the draft. However, they have often found impact players in FA. Farrior, Kimo and Clark are modern examples of this. Even signing Mitchell should be a huge impact on the defense. I'm just disappointed in the evaluation of draft talent. You need both FAs and draft talent to win. They are doing ok in FA but their drafts have been below the line the past few years.
      The draft talent was below the line in 2008 and 2009 (except for Wallace and Lewis)...

      2010 was a good draft: Pouncey, Worilds, Brown (also Dwyer and Sanders)
      2011 was a good draft: Heyward, Allen, Gilbert2012 was a good draft: DeCastro, Adams, Beachum (possibly Spence)
      The class of 2013 needs to step it up this year (Jones, Bell, Wheaton, Thomas...even both Williams and and Justin Brown will have an opportunity)...

      But, '08 and '09 were killers...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • Vader
        Backup
        • Dec 2012
        • 289

        #93
        Originally posted by Slapstick
        The draft talent was below the line in 2008 and 2009 (except for Wallace and Lewis)...

        2010 was a good draft: Pouncey, Worilds, Brown (also Dwyer and Sanders)
        2011 was a good draft: Heyward, Allen, Gilbert2012 was a good draft: DeCastro, Adams, Beachum (possibly Spence)
        The class of 2013 needs to step it up this year (Jones, Bell, Wheaton, Thomas...even both Williams and and Justin Brown will have an opportunity)...

        But, '08 and '09 were killers...
        2010 was decent but Worilds has played 8 good games all year. He was so bad on the right side that they benched him for Jones. Also Worilds has been hurt every year he has played. And that's been part time work. Brown was a great pick. Pouncey is still up in the air to me. He's been injured a lot as well even if it isn't his fault. He was also easily replaced by a guy that was sitting in church the week before.

        2011 is ok with Heyward but Gilbert has been a disaster. They had to move Adams over to TE to help him at RT. Allen is still learning. Adams absolutely blows at LT and Spence hasn't played a single down.

        You need to find studs somewhere. The draft hasn't garnered any lately with the exception of Heyward and Brown. Players like Adams and Gilbert hurt your drafting because they are high picks that can't seem to put it together. Hell it takes both of them to just play RT.

        Hopefully this year we can get more players that can actually play above average.

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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 16041

          #94
          Originally posted by pfelix73
          Keisel's on FB and started a chant on there--- re-sign 99.....
          Forget a chant......
          Brett deserves a song featuring multiple keyboards, two finger pianiast,sythesizer filled, white dudes lookin like Gherri Curls, classic MTV 80s.

          Funny thing is that when we come crawling back begging him to sign after "courting" other DEs, the lyrics would be shockingly on point.
          Brett should make Colbert and Tomlin sing him this song, put on an 80s "Toto" wigs and post it on youtube as a condition of signing.

          Last edited by Captain Lemming; 03-26-2014, 10:37 PM.
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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          • Chadman
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6537

            #95
            There should be some kind of rule that makes all Steeler-related threads carry at least 1 Toto film clip, just to restore a bit of sanity to the argument.

            That, or we must all quote Steven Seagal at every given opportunity.

            But then again, don't ask me...I'm just a cook..
            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

            Light up the darkness.

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            • papillon
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              #96
              Originally posted by Chadman
              There should be some kind of rule that makes all Steeler-related threads carry at least 1 Toto film clip, just to restore a bit of sanity to the argument.

              That, or we must all quote Steven Seagal at every given opportunity.

              But then again, don't ask me...I'm just a kook..
              I fixed that for you.

              Pappy
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              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #97
                Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                filth flarn filth flarn
                I'm now picturing SoD saying this while wearing an ugly Cosby sweater, with a Jello Pudding Pop in one hand and the Picturepages pen in the other...
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • BradshawsHairdresser
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #98
                  Numbers are out. The Rams got Carrington for one year, $1.5 million.

                  Doesn't sound to me as though the Steelers were ever very serious about him.

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                  • Ernie
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 8470

                    #99
                    Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                    Numbers are out. The Rams got Carrington for one year, $1.5 million.

                    Doesn't sound to me as though the Steelers were ever very serious about him.
                    Wow... seems like a very modest price.

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                    • BradshawsHairdresser
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 7056

                      Originally posted by Ernie
                      Wow... seems like a very modest price.
                      Yeah...I believe the Steelers paid more for Cam Thomas, $2 million per year. Although Carrington got $1 million of his salary guaranteed (per KFFL). Don't know how much of Thomas' salary, if any, is guaranteed.

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                      • SteelerOfDeVille
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 9069

                        Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                        Yeah...I believe the Steelers paid more for Cam Thomas, $2 million per year. Although Carrington got $1 million of his salary guaranteed (per KFFL). Don't know how much of Thomas' salary, if any, is guaranteed.
                        sunnava! now, that's lame...
                        2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                        • SteelerOfDeVille
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 9069

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          I'm now picturing SoD saying this while wearing an ugly Cosby sweater, with a Jello Pudding Pop in one hand and the Picturepages pen in the other...
                          2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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