Steelers sign Worilds to 1 year deal...9.7 mill

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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
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    Steelers sign Worilds to 1 year deal...9.7 mill

    [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2014/03/04/Linebacker-Jason-Worilds-signs-one-year-contract-with-Steelers/stories/201403040168[/URL]
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    • Nov 2011
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    #2
    Question for all resident salary cap experts. If this deal stays as is what does it do to our cap situation? I take it Woodley is now a Summer cut for sure.

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    • papillon
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      • Mar 2008
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      #3
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      [URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2014/03/04/Linebacker-Jason-Worilds-signs-one-year-contract-with-Steelers/stories/201403040168[/URL]
      I don't think I'm too thrilled with this turn of events. We all knew something had to happen with Worilds and Woodley, but Worilds signing on for almost 10 million wasn't an option that I was thinking would come to fruition. I think the Steelers are going to end up with a contract similar to Woodley's that pushes money to the end and eats up cap space. So, are the Steelers looking at 5 years 40 million like Kruger? Plus Woodley?

      Dang, the next moves should be interesting to say the least.

      I think Ike should be considering where he's going to be playing next year and probably Woodley as well, Troy might hang around, but the Steelers will be on the hook for a big salary there.

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      • flippy
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        I think this just means Woodley's gonna get a chance to play on the right this year.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
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          #5
          I think they can move some of this money around for cap space.... I hope so, I don't think Worilds is a 10 mill man.
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          • Jooser
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            • Jul 2008
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            #6
            Way over paid for Worilds, one year, 9.1 mill, can't justify it. This is pretty disappointing to me, I hope he produces, but what if he's injured again?
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            • steelz09
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              • Jan 2008
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              #7
              I don't think the Steelers are planning to pay Worilds over 9 mil. I think they fully anticipate getting a long term deal worked out.
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              • papillon
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                • Mar 2008
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                #8
                Originally posted by steelz09
                I don't think the Steelers are planning to pay Worilds over 9 mil. I think they fully anticipate getting a long term deal worked out.
                But, realistically how do you see that being structured? Kruger received 40 million for 5 years, whether he's worth it or not is irrelevant, he got it.

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                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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                • SteelerOfDeVille
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by steelz09
                  I don't think the Steelers are planning to pay Worilds over 9 mil. I think they fully anticipate getting a long term deal worked out.
                  Exactly what I'm thinking. Signing a 1-year deal doesn't preclude him from signing a long-term deal. It just means he's off the table for other teams. I think Worilds inking the deal means he WANTS to be a Steeler and this is a showing of good faith.

                  I would imagine there is little to no signing bonus with being tagged, so, it would benefit the player to get a long-term deal with a signing bonus -- i.e., money NOW.
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                  • sick beats
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                    • Dec 2013
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                    Exactly what I'm thinking. Signing a 1-year deal doesn't preclude him from signing a long-term deal. It just means he's off the table for other teams. I think Worilds inking the deal means he WANTS to be a Steeler and this is a showing of good faith.

                    I would imagine there is little to no signing bonus with being tagged, so, it would benefit the player to get a long-term deal with a signing bonus -- i.e., money NOW.
                    I don't know Deville, even without a longer deal with a signing bonus, JW still stands to make $10 million if things stand as they are now. Even without a signing bonus, JW making $10 mill is still a nice payday, even if it's not long term. That's not chump change.

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                    • pittpete
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                      #11
                      Its not staying this way...
                      OMG, use your heads guys.
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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by pittpete
                        Its not staying this way...
                        OMG, use your heads guys.
                        calm down Pete... people are asking questions and speculating on what was just announced.

                        What if Worilds says no to the long term deal? LOL...
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                        • hawaiiansteel
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          What Worilds Deal Means

                          By Ed Bouchette
                          Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

                          Good morning,

                          The Steelers traded one gamble for another when they gave linebacker Jason Worilds their transition tag. They went from gambling they would lose him, to gambling they can afford him.

                          But it also opens up a way for them to release LaMarr Woodley if they so choose. We will get to that below.

                          With a one-year salary of $9,754,000 on the books for Worilds, the Steelers salary cap for their top 51 player contracts is now estimated to be $144 million and change (thanks to Sportrac.com and OverTheCap.com for many of these figures). Each team’s salary cap has been set at $133 million but teams also can carry over unused cap from last season and for the Steelers that was $1.4 million.

                          So, they are roughly $10 million over the salary cap on their top 51 contracts, which is all that counts in the offseason. Including all of their players under contract, plus the transition number on Worilds, for 2014, they are about $14 million over the cap for the entire roster. But they only have to be in compliance in the offseason with the top 51. They have until the start of the 2014 regular season to get all of their players under the cap.

                          So, right now, they must find another $10 million to lop off their salary cap and that won’t be hard.

                          As we noted, they are working on a restructuring of Heath Miller’s contract, which can only mean they are trying to sign him to an extension. Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network reported yesterday that the deal was done; our sources as of Monday evening say not quite.

                          There is no way Miller’s agent, Tom Condon, is going to take a one-year reduction in his client’s $6 million base salary without an extension. So they have to be working on an extension that would allow them to reduce his 2014 salary cap hit by reducing his salary and giving him a signing bonus. Bonuses are pro-rated over the life of the contract. Say Miller would take a $1 million salary this year and the Steelers would give him a $9 million bonus spread over, say, three years. That bonus would count $3 million per year, so it would reduce his cap by $2 million this year ($3 million pro-rated bonus plus $1 million salary equals $4 million, replacing his $6 million salary now on the books). That’s not much, but it’s a start.

                          By Worilds getting the big number, it does not bode well for Ike Taylor one way or another. Taylor is scheduled to make $7 million in this the final year of his contract. He’s not going to get that. They could release him, of course, and save $7 million. But no matter how you think he played last season, they have no depth at cornerback. They could ask him to take $2-$3 million and shave their cap by another $4-5 million. Let’s say Taylor takes the $3 million salary and Miller gets the contract extension I suggested above (merely pulled out of a hat, by the way, with no knowledge of their negotiations with Condon).

                          Those two things would create $6 million in cap space. Cut tackle Levi Brown and his $6.25 million due this season and that’s $12.25 million. Bang, they are under the cap for next Tuesday before they even get to some of the more difficult decisions.

                          Among those decisions is what to do with Troy Polamalu’s $8,250,000 salary in his final year (ask him to take a cut? Extend?) and whether to restructure Lawrence Timmons, Ben Roethlisberger (or extend) and Antonio Brown.

                          Also, they can reduce Jason Worilds current salary cap number of more than $9 million by signing him to a long-term deal. If they, say, give him a $24 million signing bonus on a six-year, $60 million deal, they could give him a $2 million salary this year (with guarantees for a few years) and still reduce his cap by $2-3 million from where it is now for 2014.

                          There is a lot of room to work there with all of that..

                          As for Woodley, he counts $13,590,000 against their salary cap this year, including an $8 million salary. If they cut him now, because of the cap rules, all of his pro-rated bonus money would count now. I’ve done the math before, he would count $14.17 million if they cut him now (but wipe him off their books for 2015 and 2016).

                          However, if they cut him after June 1, he would count only $5.59 million this year (and still be on their books for 2015).

                          So here is what the Steelers can do: Come to terms on a long-term deal with Worilds, essentially giving him what Woodley would have made, an average of $10 million per year. They could do that and actually lower his current salary cap hit for 2014 of $9,754,00, giving them even more savings.

                          But remember in all of these moves that would create salary cap room: The Steelers are going to need it. They have essentially no halfbacks behind Le’Veon Bell, no defensive ends other than Cameron Heyward under contract, little depth in the secondary and they need to sign Cotchery and/or another wide receiver.

                          And while they seem to be OK with their starting offensive line, there is little depth there as well.

                          It should make for a fun March, which already has come in like a lion with the Worilds deal.

                          [URL]http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2014/03/04/What-Worilds-Deal-Means.html[/URL]

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                          • steelsnis
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by steelz09
                            I don't think the Steelers are planning to pay Worilds over 9 mil. I think they fully anticipate getting a long term deal worked out.
                            Def looking at a long term. A 1-year deal like this splits up the money into 17 game checks. Guys would much rather get money up front and that gets accomplished by signing a long-term deal.

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                            • pittpete
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              calm down Pete... people are asking questions and speculating on what was just announced.

                              What if Worilds says no to the long term deal? LOL...
                              I got ya, but wasn't this announced this morning?
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