Steelers sign Worilds to 1 year deal...9.7 mill

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  • Ernie
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    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #31
    Originally posted by Shawn
    Actually, I think it's smart. Worilds was a half season wonder. On the open market, some ignorant team would have signed him to a large long term contract. So the Steelers transition him, making it tougher for teams to come in and sign him. Yes, they overpaid for his serviced this year...but it give them an additional season to evaluate Worilds talent. If he continues with his dominance...then they sign him long term. If not, then they dodged a 50 million dollar bullet.

    Fair enough. Gotta wonder if they will try to sign him fairly early in the year to an extension or wait it out? If he dominates as expected, will they be able to afford to pay him a 3-4 year deal?

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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #32
      Originally posted by Ernie
      Fair enough. Gotta wonder if they will try to sign him fairly early in the year to an extension or wait it out? If he dominates as expected, will they be able to afford to pay him a 3-4 year deal?
      The Steelers don't work contracts during the season. Also, I don't see an advantage to doing so. Now, if the Steelers would have actually seen some talent in him before last season, they could have him locked up on the cheap for the next 5 years. Oh well.
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      • Ernie
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        • Aug 2013
        • 8470

        #33
        Originally posted by Shawn
        The Steelers don't work contracts during the season. Also, I don't see an advantage to doing so. Now, if the Steelers would have actually seen some talent in him before last season, they could have him locked up on the cheap for the next 5 years. Oh well.

        I could see how that would be a distraction to Worilds and the team both... One thing's for sure, it won't be "On the cheap" from here on out. Oh well, hopefully he earns his keep.

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #34
          Originally posted by Shawn
          The Steelers don't work contracts during the season. Also, I don't see an advantage to doing so. Now, if the Steelers would have actually seen some talent in him before last season, they could have him locked up on the cheap for the next 5 years. Oh well.
          If they had, people would have complained like they did when Brown signed...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • SteelCrazy
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            • Aug 2008
            • 5049

            #35
            This is a smart move by Worilds. He is going to get 10 mil to play one season and sign anywhere again next year with a signing bonus and a fat contract. Of course, he could sign a multi year deal with us and bail the team out a little with the cap, but if not, so what. I think this was a knee jerk reaction because of some recent history. Bad move by the Steelers, unless they can work out a good deal for the team.
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            • NorthCoast
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              • Sep 2008
              • 26636

              #36
              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
              This is a smart move by Worilds. He is going to get 10 mil to play one season and sign anywhere again next year with a signing bonus and a fat contract. Of course, he could sign a multi year deal with us and bail the team out a little with the cap, but if not, so what. I think this was a knee jerk reaction because of some recent history. Bad move by the Steelers, unless they can work out a good deal for the team.

              All speculation. You are making the big assumption that Worilds V.2014 >= Worilds V.2013, allowing him to 'cash in'. To the contrary, most of the risk is on Worilds. He gets injured, he won't make near what he is making this season.
              This could very well be a 'show me more before we pony up' season for the Steelers.... as in JJ show me more, Worilds show me more, Spence show me more, Williams show me more.

              Woodley isn't worth $14M, but the Steelers are paying him that.

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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #37
                Originally posted by steelsnis
                You guys are nuts! This is great news. If Worilds left, this place would have been in FULL FREAK OUT MODE for giving up a 26-year old pass rusher. Now, by all accounts, Worilds quickly signed the 1-year deal, eliminated any chance of signing with another team, and is expecting to work out a long term deal that will lower the cap # and keep him in Pittsburgh for years to come.

                What's everyone bit**ing about???
                We did that with a guy who was not yet injury prone and regret it.
                Worilds IS injury prone BEFORE signing and THAT is supposed to be smart?
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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #38
                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  All speculation. You are making the big assumption that Worilds V.2014 >= Worilds V.2013, allowing him to 'cash in'. To the contrary, most of the risk is on Worilds. He gets injured, he won't make near what he is making this season.
                  This could very well be a 'show me more before we pony up' season for the Steelers.... as in JJ show me more, Worilds show me more, Spence show me more, Williams show me more.

                  Woodley isn't worth $14M, but the Steelers are paying him that.
                  Actually I can see this POV.
                  Would NOT sign him long term now.
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                  • K Train
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 3685

                    #39
                    im taking 1 year 10 million over a low ball offer over 5 years every time if im worilds.....he will never make 10 mil over the course of any one season and he can cash in next season on a long term deal because he'll only be what? 26?

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #40
                      Originally posted by K Train
                      im taking 1 year 10 million over a low ball offer over 5 years every time if im worilds.....he will never make 10 mil over the course of any one season and he can cash in next season on a long term deal because he'll only be what? 26?
                      but that's assuming Worilds has a great season AND stays injury-free.

                      Worilds is the one taking the risk and he knows it which is why I expect him to sign a long-term deal with the Steelers before the season starts.

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                      • birtikidis
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4628

                        #41
                        Knee Jerk reactions all around!
                        We've already started working on an extension. Transition tag just gives the team the opportunity to not lose Jason without a fight.
                        i don't know if I want to go past page one of this thread.
                        EVERY YEAR WE HAVE 100 POSTERS WHO FLIP OUT ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. THIS IS THIS YEARS VERSION.

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                        • birtikidis
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4628

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          I suspect Troy might be the the cap casualty and not Woodley. I believe the Steelers save around 8 million by cutting Troy. Woodley would give some relief but there is so much dead money...and the Steelers hate dead money. Not to mention JJ is an unknown commodity. I suspect JJ won't find his own until the 2015 season.
                          buuuut cuttign woodley frees up money over the next several seasons. Cutting troy only saves them for a season.

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                          • K Train
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                            • Jan 2014
                            • 3685

                            #43
                            my money is on they dont get a deal done by opening day

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                            • birtikidis
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4628

                              #44
                              Originally posted by K Train
                              my money is on they dont get a deal done by opening day
                              I don't bet cash, but I'll bet you .1 of a bitcoin they do

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                              • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                                • May 2008
                                • 10281

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                I suspect Troy might be the the cap casualty and not Woodley. I believe the Steelers save around 8 million by cutting Troy. Woodley would give some relief but there is so much dead money...and the Steelers hate dead money. Not to mention JJ is an unknown commodity. I suspect JJ won't find his own until the 2015 season.
                                The two moves are exclusive of each other. Cutting one does not mean that the other is safe. Same goes for Ike.

                                That being said, I thought that the team would live with Woodley for one more year and let Worilds walk. All else being even I would choose Worilds over Woodley at this point, but one was not under contract at the time and the other has $13M to eat if you let him walk. As much as the team hates dead money, I have to think that this signals the end of Woodley. Worilds is only a LOLB, and Woodley has such limited experience on the right side and does not fit the mold of a ROLB. Unless the team has zero faith that Jones can improve in his second year then the team will buck their trend and cut Woodley (unless he accepts a major cut in pay). I don't think he will or should take a drastic paycut because he will be relegated to backup duty or moved to his off side. If he is willing to accept less, then find a team willing to give him a chance to start - at least a legit shot to compete for a starting spot because he will be starting from behind in Pittsburgh. The only question left in my mind is pre or post June 1.

                                Then you have the questions in the secondary. Ike or Troy...or both? The bigger question is Gay/Allen or Shark. I think that the team would feel more comfortable starting Gay/Allen with a high pick coming in than Shark. Look for a substantial reduction from Ike if he is going to return - at least $4M of his $7M salary. I also can't see them keeping Troy at $8.25, and he is less dead money than Ike if cut. They need him more than they need Ike, look for a smaller request for reduction, maybe to $5M or $6M.
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