Pittsburgh Steelers Would Be Good Home For Michael Sam

[Slapstick]

Whatever... Please give a list of acceptable words since you are the expert.



Michael Sam Sr. told [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/sports/football/for-nfl-prospect-michael-sam-upbringing-was-bigger-challenge-than-coming-out-as-gay.html?hp"]The New York Times[/URL] that he received the news last Tuesday when his son wrote in a text: "Dad, I'm gay."
Sam's father took the news hard. He said he was eating at a Denny's restaurant but had to leave after receiving the text.
"I couldn't eat no more, so I went to Applebee's to have drinks," Sam Sr. told the newspaper. "I don't want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment."
Sam Sr., who described himself as "old-school," told the newspaper the idea of a gay player in the NFL bothers him, even when that person could be his own son.
He told the newspaper that late Hall of Famer Deacon Jones, the leader of the Rams' Fearsome Foursome who is credited with terming the word sack, "is turning over in his grave."
He told the newspaper, however, that he loves his son and hopes he makes it into the NFL.
"As a black man, we have so many hurdles to cross. This is just one he has to cross," Sam Sr. told The Times.

I guess last week is a while these days...

Did you read the rest of the article?

If not, you definitely should...

[steelsnis]

[URL]http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10443289[/URL]

Here is another story about Sam's room mate and his honest opinion of how it went down. While he was cool with it other players weren't and he is calling them out on their hypocrisy now that its front page and he is being viewed as a hero.

Sam asked 3 guys to go with him to a gay pride parade. One said yes, 2 said no because they were afraid to be alone with him.

All I am saying is the media has created this feel good story when the reality is this is going to be difficult, sensational and somewhat of a distraction given his draft stock.

Sure it'll be a story, but I don't think it'll be a huge distraction. Here's another quote from that same story you quoted above.

"We actually became closer as a team probably because of it," said senior defensive lineman Brayden Burnett. "It's the same as if you get to better know a friend or a family member. You just have a feeling of closeness."

Again, I'm not advocating that the Steelers draft Michael Sam. I'm saying that if a team has him ranked high enough to draft him, and then they don't take the guy because he's gay, it's incredibly shortsighted and weak.

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Being homosexual isn't a "preference"...nor is it a "behavior"...it is an orientation...

I'm sure he would have preferred to keep it private, knowing that his draft stock would drop (which, apparently, it has) and the odd anti-gay bias he would face (this thread is but a microcosm of the real world in that way)...but, if he doesn't address it, it becomes an issue (just as it did with Colorado's Nick Kasa) at the combine...causing his draft stock to drop...

Finally, questions like:



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Have nothing to do with anyone's sexual orientation, preference or behavior...they have to do with the conduct of the other players/organizational members...as long as those people are behaving in a professional manner, he can simply answer, "Great! It hasn't been an issue!" or "It's no different than being a heterosexual football player."

C'mon.., all those questions have to do with HIS sexuality. While his draft stock may have dropped a little his name recognition has skyrocketed. He is a household name and it damn sure isn't because of his on field contributions.

He can say its no different but it is...how many other mid rounders were frontpage news last week? How many late rounders has the first lady given words of encouragement to last week?

His orientation, sexuality...whatever its called, is the only reasonwe are having this discussion right now.

Who had him in a mock on this board? All of a sudden people want him to prove they are tolerant or because they want the spotlight.

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Sure it'll be a story, but I don't think it'll be a huge distraction. Here's another quote from that same story you quoted above.

I think it would be a huge distraction... Mizzou didn't have to deal with the media so its easy to move on once the games begin. If the media new last August the whole season is amedia circus and we have no idea how his team responds if he is getting a ton of press.

[Ghost]

At 6'2 / 255 he's too short and small to be an NFL DE. He would best work as a 3-4 OLB. The issue is it's been widely reported that he struggled mightily at that position, with his hand off the ground, during Senior Bowl practices. It was not something that appeared to be a natural fit.

NFLDraftscout.com has him as the 110th overall prospect. 4th round. The question becomes - should the Steelers take a guy in the 4th who is guaranteed to be changing positions and has so far shown to be not adjusting well to the switch. Is it worth it to take a guy who almost certainly adds nothing but special teams play for the first season or two?

If coaches Butler and Porter see something in the kid and think they can accelerate the transition, then maybe he is worth a 4th or 5th round pick. If not, then everything else is a moot point.

[feltdizz]

Did you read the rest of the article?

If not, you definitely should...

I did.... and nothing I read suggested otherwise.I know Sam says it went well....but his Dad said otherwise and it sounded like an honest reaction from a father who just found out his kid was gay in a text message.

[feltdizz]

At 6'2 / 255 he's too short and small to be an NFL DE. He would best work as a 3-4 OLB. The issue is it's been widely reported that he struggled mightily at that position, with his hand off the ground, during Senior Bowl practices. It was not something that appeared to be a natural fit.

NFLDraftscout.com has him as the 110th overall prospect. 4th round. The question becomes - should the Steelers take a guy in the 4th who is guaranteed to be changing positions and has so far shown to be not adjusting well to the switch. Is it worth it to take a guy who almost certainly adds nothing but special teams play for the first season or two?

If coaches Butler and Porter see something in the kid and think they can accelerate the transition, then maybe he is worth a 4th or 5th round pick. If not, then everything else is a moot point.

I agree....

I bet all 32 teams have newspapers talking about how they are the perfect fit for Sam.

[Slapstick]

I did.... and nothing I read suggested otherwise.I know Sam says it went well....but his Dad said otherwise and it sounded like an honest reaction from a father who just found out his kid was gay in a text message.

I was not referring to the father...I was referring to all of the positive parts of the article...

[Captain Crunch]

At 6'2 / 255 he's too short and small to be an NFL DE. He would best work as a 3-4 OLB. The issue is it's been widely reported that he struggled mightily at that position, with his hand off the ground, during Senior Bowl practices. It was not something that appeared to be a natural fit.

NFLDraftscout.com has him as the 110th overall prospect. 4th round. The question becomes - should the Steelers take a guy in the 4th who is guaranteed to be changing positions and has so far shown to be not adjusting well to the switch. Is it worth it to take a guy who almost certainly adds nothing but special teams play for the first season or two?

If coaches Butler and Porter see something in the kid and think they can accelerate the transition, then maybe he is worth a 4th or 5th round pick. If not, then everything else is a moot point.

A tip of the hat to you sir. The best post in this thread... Sanity prevails. Couldn't have said it better... Just lock this baby down now...

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In referring to "his smoking hot wife", you've answered your own ridiculous question...

How so? Why did he marry her then? She said he never got giggy.

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Hell no... I believe him.

I think the timing of his announcement is a calculated business decision. He's set for life and he hasn't played one down in the NFL.

Set for life? Let's not go quite that far just yet. But I agree the decision to come out now was a calculated decision to potentially get him drafted earlier and in position to make more $. But that doesn't mean the plan will succeed. He could get drafted, be too much a tweener, and make a few speeches here and there for a few bucks, but he isn't necessarily set for life. He might end up selling insurance.

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I really don't care. But a large % of people in Pgh feel he is definitely gay. If you don't know this, you haven't spoke to anyone in da Burgh in a long time. His own teammates say it was really weird to go over his place; he'd make everyone take off their shoes and want to talk about his new curtains, etc.

[Slapstick]

I really don't care. But a large % of people in Pgh feel he is definitely gay. If you don't know this, you haven't spoke to anyone in da Burgh in a long time. His own teammates say it was really weird to go over his place; he'd make everyone take off their shoes and want to talk about his new curtains, etc.

For a long time, a large portion of the U.S. population thought the Affordable Care Act had been repealed...

Just because some people believe it, that doesn't actually make it the truth...

[Slapstick]

At 6'2 / 255 he's too short and small to be an NFL DE. He would best work as a 3-4 OLB. The issue is it's been widely reported that he struggled mightily at that position, with his hand off the ground, during Senior Bowl practices. It was not something that appeared to be a natural fit.

NFLDraftscout.com has him as the 110th overall prospect. 4th round. The question becomes - should the Steelers take a guy in the 4th who is guaranteed to be changing positions and has so far shown to be not adjusting well to the switch. Is it worth it to take a guy who almost certainly adds nothing but special teams play for the first season or two?

If coaches Butler and Porter see something in the kid and think they can accelerate the transition, then maybe he is worth a 4th or 5th round pick. If not, then everything else is a moot point.

Good post!

This is all I have been saying...evaluate him on the basis of how he plays football...the end...

[sick beats]

For a long time, a large portion of the U.S. population thought the Affordable Care Act had been repealed...

Just because some people believe it, that doesn't actually make it the truth...

I don't disagree at all. But the fact is, about half the people of Pgh - and Western PA in general - do believe KS is gay. So, to act as if that is a crazy notion, well. half the people don't think it is crazy at all. I mean, there are such things as effeminate heterosexual men, but usually, if one "saunters" and has the body language of KS, they are typically gay. Not always, but usually. And his x-wife says he never wanted to touch her. <shrugs shoulders> Again, don't really care one way or the other.