Clark: NFL players going to use pot

[Oviedo]

One need only visit the delightful city of Amsterdam to see the effects of broad legalization.

Pretty much one of the dirtiest cities on the face of the earth.

[AzStillers1989]

Well, first of all, there are more people using a lot more alcohol and tobacco in this country, so the sheer numbers probably don't tell the whole story.

Secondly, how good of statistics do they have on who dies as the result of weed? If a pot user develops lung cancer from smoking pot, and it's illegal, is he going to admit to using marijuana? If a pot user gets stoned and dies in a car wreck, do they always determine that weed is the cause?

How many people will be led into more dangerous and deadly drugs because of using weed?

How many people develop schizophrenia from alcohol and tobacco use as compared with marijuana use? And what will be the result of legalization and long-term, widespread use? What will it cost society to have a generation of young people damaging their brains and lowering their IQ?

It may well turn out that marijuana will have a far higher cost to society than you think.

Look, weed isn't for everyone, just like alcohol and cigarettes aren't for everyone. Your claim that not enough people smoking skews the numbers? to me that disrespects the very numbers you use as an example. Millions of people smoke pot world wide, when have u ever herd of one dying of an overdose? Dying of lung or liver cancer or obtaining mouth cancer(like drinking and smoking/chewing tobacco will do). You claim people become schizo? well well, if this is true give my that over cancer... or suicidal tendency's from the prescription drugs that are so readily available... weed is NO MORE harmful than alcohol is, period. Unfortunately many people have been brainwashed to believe weed is on the same level as ACTUAL drugs like heroin, meth, ecstasy, perks, vics etc...
btw.. you also side stepped my other point from my last post of terminally ill people who can benefit from the use of marijuana.... truly , all in all.... we don't need government to tell us what we can and cannot do with our body's, as long as we aren't injuring others... (I haven't smoked weed in over a year btw)

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Millions of people smoke pot world wide, when have u ever herd of one dying of an overdose?

Funny you ask that question--I just read about that happening: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548669/Devout-Christian-mother-three-31-woman-Britain-DIE-cannabis-poisoning-smoking-joint-bed.html#ixzz2rzCfUVOh[/url]

Now, I know that's an unusual episode. I think I read about someone dying after drinking a can of Coke as well.

To respond to your point--there may not be many people dying from marijuana overdose...but can it hurt and kill people in other ways? See [url]http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/02/04/study-fatal-car-crashes-involving-marijuana-have-tripled/;[/url] [url]http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/health/story/2012-02-09/Marijuana-users-twice-as-likely-to-cause-car-crash/53031202/1;[/url] [url]http://www.calmca.org/crime/[/url]

You claim people become schizo?

Not my claim, but the indication from recent research done by Northwestern University and others. I have observed that a couple of guys I grew up with became schizophrenic after heavy pot use as teens/young adults. Can I prove the connection? No. But after reading the research, I sure have to wonder.

Weed is NO MORE harmful than alcohol is, period.

That might be true for some people. But for teens and young adults, the research seems to be showing something different when it comes to brain/memory impairment, among other things.

But hey...whatever our President says...got to drink that kool-aid, right?

btw.. you also side stepped my other point from my last post of terminally ill people who can benefit from the use of marijuana....

??? Terminally ill people can benefit from the use of morphine as well. Does that mean morphine ought to be completely unregulated?

we don't need government to tell us what we can and cannot do with our body's, as long as we aren't injuring others...

Like I said, I respect your opinion on legalization. And I'm in basic agreement with your above expressed sentiment. But...what if marijuana use DOES injure others, as in some of the above-cited examples? What if society has to pick up the tab for many of the effects and consequences of using pot? Then shouldn't government have a right to regulate that use?

[Shawn]

There is indeed a link to marijuana use and schizophrenia in the literature. But, I don't believe marijuana causes schizophrenia, but can trigger it in those who would become schizophrenic. As for legalization, I have mixed feelings on the issue. Having joints at every 7-11 isn't really an atmosphere I want my kids growing up in. Legalization might increase use...and I find that problematic. With that said, prohibition doesn't work. On a harm scale I would consider marijuana less harmful than alcohol (which btw is an extremely dirty drug physiologically). Legislation has been inconsistent and not based on good science. Personally, I would rather see it legalized, highly regulated (no advertisement, only specialized stores), taxed and that tax money be used to educate the public on addiction, and for addiction treatment services. Criminalizing marijuana use has been a gigantic waste of tax payer money.

[feltdizz]

Well, first of all, there are more people using a lot more alcohol and tobacco in this country, so the sheer numbers probably don't tell the whole story.

Secondly, how good of statistics do they have on who dies as the result of weed? If a pot user develops lung cancer from smoking pot, and it's illegal, is he going to admit to using marijuana? If a pot user gets stoned and dies in a car wreck, do they always determine that weed is the cause?

How many people will be led into more dangerous and deadly drugs because of using weed?

How many people develop schizophrenia from alcohol and tobacco use as compared with marijuana use? And what will be the result of legalization and long-term, widespread use? What will it cost society to have a generation of young people damaging their brains and lowering their IQ?

It may well turn out that marijuana will have a far higher cost to society than you think.

The real issue is people want to hide behind a drug to excuse their own chemical dependency.

It's no different than the gun debate IMO. People want to blame the guns and while there are tons of guns in America it's still the person that is responsible for these acts. They will find a gun.. if not a gun it will be a knife, a bomb, fire, etc...

Do you think the people who graduate from weed were innocent bystanders who were attacked by the drug? No, they wanted to get high.. and if it wasn't weed it would be something else and then they would move on to harder drugs. You can't save people from themselves and IMO this whole "gateway drug" is a cop out from taking personal responsibility for family members who have drug habits. It wasn't the weed folks.. it's the person.

[flippy]

In 100 years, people will look back on us as a society chock full of idiots. It will seem laughable that we thought the way we did about stuff. So we might as well laugh at ourselves first and beat them to the punch.

[Slapstick]

The real issue is people want to hide behind a drug to excuse their own chemical dependency.

It's no different than the gun debate IMO. People want to blame the guns and while there are tons of guns in America it's still the person that is responsible for these acts. They will find a gun.. if not a gun it will be a knife, a bomb, fire, etc...

Do you think the people who graduate from weed were innocent bystanders who were attacked by the drug? No, they wanted to get high.. and if it wasn't weed it would be something else and then they would move on to harder drugs. You can't save people from themselves and IMO this whole "gateway drug" is a cop out from taking personal responsibility for family members who have drug habits. It wasn't the weed folks.. it's the person.

I agree with you...both guns and marijuana should be legal and highly regulated...

[Slapstick]

There is indeed a link to marijuana use and schizophrenia in the literature. But, I don't believe marijuana causes schizophrenia, but can trigger it in those who would become schizophrenic. As for legalization, I have mixed feelings on the issue. Having joints at every 7-11 isn't really an atmosphere I want my kids growing up in. Legalization might increase use...and I find that problematic. With that said, prohibition doesn't work. On a harm scale I would consider marijuana less harmful than alcohol (which btw is an extremely dirty drug physiologically). Legislation has been inconsistent and not based on good science. Personally, I would rather see it legalized, highly regulated (no advertisement, only specialized stores), taxed and that tax money be used to educate the public on addiction, and for addiction treatment services. Criminalizing marijuana use has been a gigantic waste of tax payer money.

I believe that undiagnosed Schitzophrenics self medicate with marijuana, perhaps, rather than marijuana triggering some kind of Schitzophrenic reaction...

And, yes, alcohol is, on the whole, more harmful physiologically than marijuana...

[BradshawsHairdresser]

In 100 years, people will look back on us as a society chock full of idiots. It will seem laughable that we thought the way we did about stuff.

Nah, they'll all be high and thinking only about how to score their next drug adventure.

[flippy]

Nah, they'll all be high and thinking only about how to score their next drug adventure.

There will probably be THC in the drinking water by then to calm everyone down.