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  • SteelCrazy
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    • Aug 2008
    • 5049

    Clark: NFL players going to use pot

    Ryan Clark says NFL players, including some of his Pittsburgh Steelers teammates, turn to smoking marijuana for a variety of reasons, especially as a means to relieve pain and manage stress.

    Clark, a 12-year veteran, discussed the topic of marijuana usage and the league's testing system Thursday morning on ESPN's "First Take."

    "I know guys on my team who smoke," Clark said. "And it's not a situation where you think 'Oh, these are guys trying to be cool.' These are guys who want to do it recreationally. A lot of it is stress relief. A lot of it is pain and medication. Guys feel like, 'If I can do this, it keeps me away from maybe Vicodin, it keeps me away from pain prescription drugs and things that guys get addicted to.' Guys look at this as a more natural way to heal themselves, to stress relieve and also to medicate themselves for pain. Guys are still going to do it."

    Clark also greed with recent comments by New York Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie, who suggested the league is waging a lost cause in banning the substance, while also saying the league's current testing system isn't all that effective.

    "It's 100 percent true. They're fighting a losing battle. The testing isn't stringent," Clark said. "There is one random test during OTAs and minicamps during the offseason, and everybody will be tested early in training camp. After that, there are no more tests. So guys understand the ways to get around failing a drug test."

    Marijuana became a hot-button issue at the Super Bowl, as both teams -- the Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos -- hail from states that legalized marijuana. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll created headlines by saying he agreed with the notion the league should investigate medicinal marijuana to see if it can help players. Medicinal marijuana is legal in 20 states, plus the District of Columbia.

    Commissioner Roger Goodell, addressing the issue Friday at his annual Super Bowl news conference, downplayed the possibility of the league lifting marijuana from its list of banned substances.

    "It is still an illegal substance on a national basis," Goodell said. "It's something that is part of the collective bargaining agreement with the players. It is questionable as to the positive impacts, in the face of the very strong evidence of the negative effects, including addictions and other issues.

    "We'll continue to follow the medicine. Our experts right now are not indicating that we should change our policy in any way. We are not actively considering that at this point in time. But if it goes down the road sometime, that's something that we would never take off the table."

    [url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10413409/ryan-clark-pittsburgh-steelers-discusses-marijuana-use[/url]
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  • phillyesq
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    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #2
    I don't really have a problem with the substance of what Clark said, but I'd prefer that he not put a big target on the Steelers.

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    • K Train
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      • Jan 2014
      • 3685

      #3
      Hes preparing for his TV career

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #4
        Originally posted by phillyesq
        I don't really have a problem with the substance of what Clark said, but I'd prefer that he not put a big target on the Steelers.
        It's no bigger than any other target on the other 31 teams. The NFL knows... IMO it's good to get it out there and have an honest discussion instead of lying to ourselves about what these guys do to relieve their pain.
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        • birtikidis
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4628

          #5
          C-ya Ryan, that all but assured that you won't be back next year.

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          • phillyesq
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            • May 2008
            • 7568

            #6
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            It's no bigger than any other target on the other 31 teams. The NFL knows... IMO it's good to get it out there and have an honest discussion instead of lying to ourselves about what these guys do to relieve their pain.
            But of the other 31 teams, only a few have guys making public statements. You are simply drawing unnecessary attention from the Commish.

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27531

              #7
              Originally posted by phillyesq
              But of the other 31 teams, only a few have guys making public statements. You are simply drawing unnecessary attention from the Commish.
              I think we will hear more public statements due to the national debate over the drug.
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              • Jooser
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                • Jul 2008
                • 5102

                #8
                I think we should legalize prostitution and then there would be less illegal sex trafficking during the Super Bowl.
                ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                • sick beats
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 2144

                  #9
                  Originally posted by birtikidis
                  C-ya Ryan, that all but assured that you won't be back next year.
                  I really don't think he had a chance before he said that, which is why he didn't worry about saying it.

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                  • flippy
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #10
                    Stabbing and killing people is illegal, but some NFL players do it.
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                    • SteelCrazy
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5049

                      #11
                      Criticism of Ryan Clark misses the point


                      PITTSBURGH -- The surest sign that Ryan Clark received a significant amount of blowback after he frankly discussed marijuana use in the NFL is that the Steelers safety took to social media to clarify what he had said.

                      "I don't smoke marijuana. I won't smoke marijuana," Clark wrote Thursday afternoon on his Twitter account. "The NFL shouldn't push marijuana but I'd be a fool to say that people don't use it."

                      Those who criticize the outspoken Clark are missing the message and hitting the messenger.

                      That a significant number of players need some sort of medicine to get from Sunday to Sunday -- or Sunday to Thursday, an absurd turnaround between games in a league that is supposedly all about player safety -- is an inconvenient truth.

                      The reality is we don't want to know what it takes for players to get through a season of countless collisions any more than we want to know what went into the making of the hot dogs and hamburgers that are sold at NFL stadiums.

                      When Clark advocated that the NFL stop testing for marijuana because it was a waste of time and resources that predictably raised some hackles. What may have gotten lost is Clark's point that some players use marijuana to help them deal with pain because they view it as a safer alternative to prescription pain pills, which can be highly addictive.

                      Those that scoff at this as rationalizing the use of an illegal (well, in most states) drug I ask this: Isn't it a tad hypocritical to cheer violent hits and encourage players to have little regard for their own bodies and then then tell them how they can or can't deal with the pain?

                      Also, is the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes any worse than pain pills or does one simply carry the stigma of social taboo?

                      Like Clark, I am not advocating the use of marijuana in the NFL, and I totally get that the line between medicinal and recreational use of the drug can be blurred and blatantly manipulated. But more research needs to be gathered on the issue, something commissioner Roger Goodell seems willing to do, if a little reluctantly.

                      Frank discussion like what Clark engaged in Thursday is also necessary.

                      That Clark felt the need to say, via Twitter, that he is not pothead shows how nuanced this issue truly is.

                      It also illuminated how there needs to be much more understanding of it as players try to manage their pain so we can cheer them on Sundays.

                      [url]http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/4776/criticism-of-clark-misses-the-point[/url]
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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        Mark Bunell said he knew players who used it and over the years they weren't the same player because of the drug.

                        Thats bull IMO.. players decline over the years because its a high impact sport. These guys are medicating with all types of substances.... I doubt mj is the reason some of them fell off.
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                        • BradshawsHairdresser
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 7056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Mark Bunell said he knew players who used it and over the years they weren't the same player because of the drug.

                          Thats bull IMO.. players decline over the years because its a high impact sport. These guys are medicating with all types of substances.... I doubt mj is the reason some of them fell off.
                          Brunell knew those players, worked alongside them, and observed them carefully. . .You have a right to your opinion, but I'll have to go with his take over yours.

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27531

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                            Brunell knew those players, worked alongside them, and observed them carefully. . .You have a right to your opinion, but I'll have to go with his take over yours.
                            Fair enough... but its not like Brunell has made the best decisions financially... wouldnt be surprised if his opinion is also a little bankrupt.

                            "Weed ruins lives"

                            Sorry... cant take him seriously when he says something that sensational
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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              After several years of taking hits on the field, Mark Brunell wasn't the same player either...that had nothing to do with cannabis....
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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