Dulac On Assistant Coaches

[feltdizz]

well, based on that logic DL has never had an offense run right down the filed on them after taking the lead in a nfcc game

Do you live in Colorado?

[feltdizz]

okay, here's the million dollar question whenever the talk of getting rid of tomlin comes up....................who do you want to bring in to replace DL?.
who is the sure fire young gun to outperform DL's historically top 5 defense(except last year) for the next decade?
i need names

I need to know why we need a DC to stay here for a decade? That's backasswards. A good DC should only be here for 3 to 5 years before getting a HC gig.

Jim Tomsula - 49ers DL coach
Rocky Seto - Seattle secondary coach
Steve Wilks - Panther secondary coach
John Hoke - Chicago Bears
Carnell Lake - Steelers
Butler - Steelers

[squidkid]

I need to know why we need a DC to stay here for a decade? That's backasswards. A good DC should only be here for 3 to 5 years before getting a HC gig.

Jim Tomsula - 49ers DL coach
Rocky Seto - Seattle secondary coach
Steve Wilks - Panther secondary coach
John Hoke - Chicago Bears
Carnell Lake - Steelers
Butler - Steelers

so you wanted DL gone after 3-5 years?
what about the stability aspect of steeler coaches?

[ikestops85]

What??? Are you really trying to use the NFCCG vs their rival in the division who has been to 3 Conference championships the last 3 years to support your argument? Thats laughable.

Why is that laughable? Why does it matter who the opponent is? Did you cut LeBeau slack when we lost to the Ravens? I don't think so.

[phillyesq]

I need to know why we need a DC to stay here for a decade? That's backasswards. A good DC should only be here for 3 to 5 years before getting a HC gig.

Jim Tomsula - 49ers DL coach
Rocky Seto - Seattle secondary coach
Steve Wilks - Panther secondary coach
John Hoke - Chicago Bears
Carnell Lake - Steelers
Butler - Steelers

Some guys are better as coordinators. I loved Dom Capers as the DC for the Steelers. He didn't do as well as a head coach. Lebeau didn't do well as a head coach, but then again, it was the bungles...

You can grab an up and comer, or you can grab a proven commodity.

[feltdizz]

so you wanted DL gone after 3-5 years?
what about the stability aspect of steeler coaches?

DL was 65 when he returned.... it was obvious he wasn't going to be a HC and I had no problem with him staying for a decade but times up IMO. I was ready for DL to leave after the Denver loss in the playoffs.

The next guy damn sure shouldn't be here for 10 years. Hell, when was the last time you heard of a DC or OC staying with one team for 10 years?

[feltdizz]

Why is that laughable? Why does it matter who the opponent is? Did you cut LeBeau slack when we lost to the Ravens? I don't think so.

Its laughable because it DOES matter who the opponent is...

Its natural to be more critical of the team you are invested in but lets be honest. We are giving up TD's to mediocre teams in must win football games...

I expect our division rival to slug it out with us...

I use the Miami game, the Oakland game, the Tebow game, the lack of pressure, the lack of INTs, the lack of sacks.

[feltdizz]

Some guys are better as coordinators. I loved Dom Capers as the DC for the Steelers. He didn't do as well as a head coach. Lebeau didn't do well as a head coach, but then again, it was the bungles...

You can grab an up and comer, or you can grab a proven commodity.

I prefer up and comers.. they are hungry, willing to take chances, willing to go all out because they are trying to make a name for themselves. I don't care if they move on and fail as a HC.

[squidkid]

keep changes the rules.
it would be easier for you to just say you want DL gone, no matter what, instead of making up stuff to try to justify it.

[feltdizz]

keep changes the rules.
it would be easier for you to just say you want DL gone, no matter what, instead of making up stuff to try to justify it.

There are no rules...

[squidkid]

There are no rules...

wow.
you say it doesnt count becausae its an nfcc game
because it a rival
because of age for a DC but not any other coach
want stability for a HC but not a DC
only want a DC for 3-5 years regardless if he is the best in the league.
sounds like you have lots of rules

[feltdizz]

wow.
you say it doesnt count becausae its an nfcc game
because it a rival
because of age for a DC but not any other coach
want stability for a HC but not a DC
only want a DC for 3-5 years regardless if he is the best in the league.
sounds like you have lots of rules

The problem is you keep calling them rules.... my opinion on DL doesnt have to cover the rest of the NFL.

There is one coach in the NFL who is 76... his D is slipping and we are rebuilding. What I want for the Steelers only applies to DL. Point blank period.

Just because I want DL to move on doesn't mean the formula has to be applied across the board using imaginary expiration dates.

The next DC... emphasis on NEXT, should definitely move on after 5 years if he is successful. Great OC's and DC's who are younger always ger HC offers. Its foolish to think a successful DC who is on the rise will stay for a decade. DL left for a HC gig, Haslett left for a HC gig, Capers left for a DC gig.

When your DC isnt 75 and is succesful they leave for HC gigs.

Come to think of it, I misspoke.... I definitely have one rule. Any coach who is 76 and sees a dip in prosuction will be on my please retire list.

[Shoe]

okay, here's the million dollar question whenever the talk of getting rid of tomlin comes up....................who do you want to bring in to replace DL?.
who is the sure fire young gun to outperform DL's historically top 5 defense(except last year) for the next decade?
i need names

• Butler? (who's been supposedly groomed for the role for years)
• Jerry Olsavsky (a former Steeler, and a guy who's been on our staff for a few years now)
• Lake (who everyone here wants to give endless kudos to. I like him, don't get me wrong)
• Tomlin is a defensive guy, I'm sure he has contacts from his coaching tree of others he likes.

That is enough of a list, of hot prospects to choose from IMO. If you don't think they're ready, then what the he11 has each of them been doing on our staff all this time? And again, I make the point... these guys have goals and ambitions too. What if one of those guys is someone we think will be a GREAT coordinator, and someone like Cleveland offers them a gig. Then we just lost our future DC, because we held on to Lebeau too long and didn't want to hurt feelings or whatever.

Bear in mind, I have a lot of respect for Lebeau. And I know it is a touchy situation. You don't just kick a HOF talent and person like DL to the curb as unceremoniously as I've been talking. But I'm just on an internet forum, so I can be more direct. He should be treated with utmost respect, but he shouldn't be treated like a king (who has his "job" for life).

[squidkid]

• Butler? (who's been supposedly groomed for the role for years) Will more than likely do the exact same thing as DL
• Jerry Olsavsky (a former Steeler, and a guy who's been on our staff for a few years now) a nobody. you wouldnt even mention him except hes a former steeler
• Lake (who everyone here wants to give endless kudos to. I like him, don't get me wrong) 2 years experience. year 1 looked good, year 2 nadda. once again only cause hes a steeler
• Tomlin is a defensive guy, I'm sure he has contacts from his coaching tree of others he likes. the coaches that tomlin worked with and brought in have sucked, players too

That is enough of a list, of hot prospects to choose from IMO. If you don't think they're ready, then what the he11 has each of them been doing on our staff all this time? And again, I make the point... these guys have goals and ambitions too. What if one of those guys is someone we think will be a GREAT coordinator, and someone like Cleveland offers them a gig. Then we just lost our future DC, because we held on to Lebeau too long and didn't want to hurt feelings or whatever.

Bear in mind, I have a lot of respect for Lebeau. And I know it is a touchy situation. You don't just kick a HOF talent and person like DL to the curb as unceremoniously as I've been talking. But I'm just on an internet forum, so I can be more direct. He should be treated with utmost respect, but he shouldn't be treated like a king (who has his "job" for life).

one average year in 10 and you want to run him out.
fine, take tomlin and his continuing downward spiral with him, and im all aboard