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How many Super Bowls did Barry make it to after that one?
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So, he had a losing season in his fourth season?
And then he "stepped down" as coach....Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.Comment
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This is ridiculous. We werent in the room true but I know this for a fact.
Tomlim WITHOUT QUESTION was one HECK of an interview. How do I know this?
Say what you want about him as a coach, and over time yes it all sounds "cliche" but I have NO DOUBT it made a TREMENDOUS first impression.
How do I know this? He has the SKILLS period. I have never competed with Ben for a QB job but "I KNOW" he can throw a better spiral than I can.
This very interview on the controversy is an example of it. Tomlin know how to say what he needs to say with skills that nobody has.
You think Belecheat could do better with his mumbling style?
Dude would LOOKS like he lying when he is telling the truth (too bad for Tomlin, when Belicheat comes to his defense nobody cares
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Tomlin's skills at the kind of communication that makes an impression in an an interview setting are WITHOUT PEER in this league.
We can argue all day long about him as a coach. But come on WE KNOW he was a stellar interview. He has proven skills he has show time and time again.
Grimm versus Tomlin as an interview (Wiz had left) is like Wallace versus Casey in a footrace. I never saw them do it but I KNOW who would win.
Tomlin had arguably THE BEST COACHED SECONDARY IN HISTORY at Tampa. Here is a sample:
In 2004, the Bucs were first in pass defense, allowing only 123.3 yards per game.
He coached the top-ranked pass defense in 2002, when the Bucs surrendered 155,6 yards per game in the air and had 31 interceptions. That same year, the Bucs limited opposing QBs to only 10 TDs and a passer rating of 48.4. That same team won Super Bowl XXXVII,led by Tomlin’s secondary that recorded four out of the five interceptions by Tampa Bay, including two that were returned for touchdowns.
As DC the vikings went from PATHETIC to number 8 in one season.
He was competing with Grimm who's CAREER coaching experience was teaching FAT MEN TO BLOCK and TO THIS DAY has NEVER been even a coordinator. Even his pal Wiz would not entrust him with that job. Hate on Haley all you want, Wiz ave HIM the offense over Grimm.
And just in case you STILL dont believe THE OBVIOUS that Tomlins interview skills were the difference, here is "horses mouth for you:
Tomlin, who keeps boxes loaded with old coaching planners and notebooks and has a log of every practice, impressed the Rooneys enough to
reach the second round as one of five finalists.
"The second interview did it," Rooney says. "He was prepared and understood what we were saying. He just really sold us."
Having heard Tomlin all these years is that really any suprise?Last edited by Captain Lemming; 12-07-2013, 10:47 AM.sigpic
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
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Last edited by Captain Lemming; 12-07-2013, 11:00 AM.sigpic
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
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Again. People can't talk about Tomlin without bringing Cowher into this. The fact that Cowher must be introduced into the conversation means that you can't defend Tomlin on his own merit.
Where did I ever say I wanted to follow the cowboys template? That's just you building another strawman. I NEVER said that. But that's what Tomlin supporters do. They try to get away from the facts and bring up something that has NOTHING to do with what is being discussed.
Also you said this:
You left out what "total defense" is really referring too. It's total yards. Big deal. The fact is they gave up almost the same number of points (21.5 to 20.4). Also you couldn't run on them. But with Tomlin's specialty being DBs coach they went from 22nd in the league to LAST 32nd in the league in passing defense. WOW what a great job.As DC the vikings went from PATHETIC to number 8 in one season.
Also I've listened to Tomlin press conferences for 7 years now. Not impressed at all. He "obviously" struggles finding big words to use to try to impress people. Which is way below the line. They interviewed 2 people from outside the organization. I'm SHOCKED he was the best... Yea, they did a bang up job brining people in. They interviewed him and Riveria. So all he had to do was beat out Grimm (who the Rooney's had known for years and wasn't likely to blow them away) and Riveria. WOW what competition.Comment
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i have minnesota being 19th overall in points allowed in 2005 (18th in pass, 22nd in run yards allowed)
14th in 2006 (31st in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
12th in 2007 (31st in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
13th in 2008 (18th in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
it appears to me that the pass defense became the worst in the entire league and the run defense became the best the year he was there. two years later the vikings still had the best run defense but the pass defense improved greatly after tomlin left.steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clownComment
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Try keeping up. I posted a picture of Switzer because he is very similar to Tomlin. Both inherited teams that had won a SB and then they won a SB with the previous coaches players. Kind of like John Gruden in Tampa Bay. Cowher didn't do that. So there is NO comparison. But thanks for trying.Comment
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