Ike's hands

[steelz09]

It's a good thing that my feelings aren't hurt, because I don't believe you...

Do you think Ike would trade his career for Bailey's?

What is there to believe? It's likely that Bailey is not only going to be a HOFer but a first ballot HOFer. You might not like the guy or think he's overrated but that is just the reality of it. Unfortunately for you, the majority of the people that matter in the HOF decision disagree with your assessment.

I don't know if Ike would trade his career for Bailey. It depends on what means most to him....

Ike - In the long run, be remembered by no one except Steelers fans and have 2 SB rings.

Bailey - In the long run, be remembered by everyone because he's enshrined in the HOF as one of the best cover CBs of all time but potentially have zero SBs unless they win it this year.

[Slapstick]

What is there to believe? It's likely that Bailey is not only going to be a HOFer but a first ballot HOFer. You might not like the guy or think he's overrated but that is just the reality of it. Unfortunately for you, the majority of the people that matter in the HOF decision disagree with your assessment.

I don't know if Ike would trade his career for Bailey. It depends on what means most to him....

Ike - In the long run, be remembered by no one except Steelers fans and have 2 SB rings.

Bailey - In the long run, be remembered by everyone because he's enshrined in the HOF as one of the best cover CBs of all time but potentially have zero SBs unless they win it this year.

Oh, you aren't getting it...

I agree that Bailey, overrated as he is, is most likely a HoFer...7 time All Pro, all decade team, etc...

I didn't believe that you were sorry...

And, I don't think Ike would trade places with Bailey, but I do think Bailey would trade places with Ike...

But, that's just me...

[feltdizz]

Oh, you aren't getting it...

I agree that Bailey, overrated as he is, is most likely a HoFer...7 time All Pro, all decade team, etc...

I didn't believe that you were sorry...

And, I don't think Ike would trade places with Bailey, but I do think Bailey would trade places with Ike...

But, that's just me...

What good is are SB rings if you have no hands to put them on?

Sorry, couldn't resist but I think it's just you on this one. Players of Bailey's caliber aren't trading places to get a ring. No way would Bailey give up 52 INT's for 14.

That's crazy talk. Ike would definitely trade places IMO.

[AzStillers1989]

What good is are SB rings if you have no hands to put them on?

Sorry, couldn't resist but I think it's just you on this one. Players of Bailey's caliber aren't trading places to get a ring. No way would Bailey give up 52 INT's for 14.

That's crazy talk. Ike would definitely trade places IMO.

You r kidding right? Isn't the point of playing to Win SB's?? Ike, for me, is one of my more favorite Steelers of my lifetime. So yes, call me a homer but I think he is the best CB we have and have had for a while and want him to retire a Steeler.

[flippy]

What good is are SB rings if you have no hands to put them on?

LOL - Ike doesn't have any rings. When they passed them out, Ike dropped his. Twice.

[flippy]

You r kidding right? Isn't the point of playing to Win SB's?? Ike, for me, is one of my more favorite Steelers of my lifetime. So yes, call me a homer but I think he is the best CB we have and have had for a while and want him to retire a Steeler.

I bet Dan Marino woulda traded places with Joe Flacco

[feltdizz]

You r kidding right? Isn't the point of playing to Win SB's?? Ike, for me, is one of my more favorite Steelers of my lifetime. So yes, call me a homer but I think he is the best CB we have and have had for a while and want him to retire a Steeler.

not at all... these guys aren't trading their God given skills and blessings just to get a ring.

If that was the case you would see a bunch of the best players demanding trades and playing for peanuts to get a ring.

Making money, being considered the best at their position, fulfilling the dream.. that's why they play the game. Everyone wants to win a SB but do you really think players like Revis, Bailey, etc would take the vet minimum to play on a proven winner? You don't see this happen until late in a players career... players have pride and believe the teams they are on can become SB contenders due to their presence.

No way would a player like Marino, Brian Kelly, Steve McNair or Warren Moon trade their careers to be a Trent Dilfer or a Brad Johnson.

[AzStillers1989]

not at all... these guys aren't trading their God given skills and blessings just to get a ring.

If that was the case you would see a bunch of the best players demanding trades and playing for peanuts to get a ring.

Making money, being considered the best at their position, fulfilling the dream.. that's why they play the game. Everyone wants to win a SB but do you really think players like Revis, Bailey, etc would take the vet minimum to play on a proven winner? You don't see this happen until late in a players career... players have pride and believe the teams they are on can become SB contenders due to their presence.

No way would a player like Marino, Brian Kelly, Steve McNair or Warren Moon trade their careers to be a Trent Dilfer or a Brad Johnson.

C.R.E.A.M. eh??

[feltdizz]

C.R.E.A.M. eh??

Dolla, dolla bill, yallllll.

[AzStillers1989]

Dolla, dolla bill, yallllll.

HAHA that was an awesome response. I just listened to that ol' Wu Tang shiiii yesterday on my drive to upstate New York. Brings back memories of my teen years lol.

[Slapstick]

not at all... these guys aren't trading their God given skills and blessings just to get a ring.

If that was the case you would see a bunch of the best players demanding trades and playing for peanuts to get a ring.

Making money, being considered the best at their position, fulfilling the dream.. that's why they play the game. Everyone wants to win a SB but do you really think players like Revis, Bailey, etc would take the vet minimum to play on a proven winner? You don't see this happen until late in a players career... players have pride and believe the teams they are on can become SB contenders due to their presence.

No way would a player like Marino, Brian Kelly, Steve McNair or Warren Moon trade their careers to be a Trent Dilfer or a Brad Johnson.

Ike has made a crapton of money....perhaps Bailey has made a little more, but, I believe that some of these players are competitors as well as businessmen...Ike has both: a bunch of money and two rings...

I think Bailey is a competitor and wants to win a SB ring before it's over...I do think that he'd take two rings over a bunch of individual accolades...but, again, that's just me...

[feltdizz]

Ike has made a crapton of money....perhaps Bailey has made a little more, but, I believe that some of these players are competitors as well as businessmen...Ike has both: a bunch of money and two rings...

I think Bailey is a competitor and wants to win a SB ring before it's over...I do think that he'd take two rings over a bunch of individual accolades...but, again, that's just me...

I'm sure Champ wants a ring.. but would he give up all his accolades to get one? I doubt it. Who are the CB's from the 2 Giants SB's the last few years?


Exactly... but Champ Bailey will be remembered.

[Slapstick]

I'm sure Champ wants a ring.. but would he give up all his accolades to get one? I doubt it. Who are the CB's from the 2 Giants SB's the last few years?


Exactly... but Champ Bailey will be remembered.

I'm not saying you're wrong...

But I will always remember that Bailey didn't win a SB (though that is subject to change)...just like how I remember Marino...

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

I'm sure Champ wants a ring.. but would he give up all his accolades to get one? I doubt it. Who are the CB's from the 2 Giants SB's the last few years?


Exactly... but Champ Bailey will be remembered.

I will remember Bailey as the second biggest goat on Denver after Rahim Moore in the playoff game against Baltimore last year.

[feltdizz]

I will remember Bailey as the second biggest goat on Denver after Rahim Moore in the playoff game against Baltimore last year.

lol... well, it's fresh in the memory but that's like saying Ike will only be remembered for his horrible hands or Peyton for his INT in the SB.