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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #31
    Even good tacklers miss one on occasion...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #32
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      He is a good tackler but you are talking about a freak of nature... it's real hard to tackle a 6' 5" WR who is 250 lbs.
      Exactly. 300lb DEs fall off Ben like flies. And Ben's about the same size as Megatron. Add in Calvin's speed and Ike had to try and grab him any way he could as fast as possible.
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      • buccoray61
        Starter
        • Jul 2009
        • 945

        #33
        Originally posted by Shoe
        Fk that sh!t. He does not deserve to be in the same breath as those guys! If Gay was 3 inches taller, .3 faster, and had quick feet, he's also be in Bailey/Revis air. But he's not.

        Ike dropping balls like that isn't just a case of "If he had hands, he'd be a WR." Dropping balls like that 1st one are tantamount to getting burned on a bomb (which happened today too). He has at least 4-5 of those drops a year! Add that into his portfolio, with that context, and he's not the "shutdown CB" that he claims to be. Ike may be a solid player (proven over 10 years+ in the league). But please, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER mention this guy in the same breath as Revis/Bailey.
        I stand by my statement.

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        • buccoray61
          Starter
          • Jul 2009
          • 945

          #34
          The odd thing about Ike's lack of skill at catching a football,is that he started out as a tailback in college. Maybe that's why he changed positions.

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          • Iron City Inc.
            Hall of Famer
            • Jun 2013
            • 3237

            #35
            Was anything we saw from Ike yesterday something we have not seen before? No. Is he still above average? IDK let the season play out. Would I look to draft a corner in 2014? Definitly.

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            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 8361

              #36
              Originally posted by Shoe
              No, I made the distinction between the two passes Ike dropped today. That 2nd one he dropped, while catchable, is a Pass Defensed in my book. That 1st one could not have been thrown better, if he was the WR himself!

              Remember a few years back, a kid named Joe Burnett. We were playing OAK, and OAKs QB (Gradkowski I think), floated a perfect pass TO BURNETT. The kid dropped it.

              That went into the books as a pass defensed. But in reality, that INT (I believe) led directly to a game-winning TD. Instead of saving the game (in that case, but at least giving his team another possession), he lost it. Those are freebies. You and I both know, that NFL games ALWAYS seem to turn on just one play. That is the margin of error in this league. Five free opportunities to turn a game around in a season, mean A LOT.
              I remember that. Joe Burnett had a lot of promise as a rook. He was near the right hash, it hit him in chest and hands. I have this irrational feeling to this day that play turned our season the wrong way.


              We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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              • Eddie Spaghetti
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 4123

                #37
                heath had a huge drop in that oakland game, IIRC

                led to an interception, I think.

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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shoe
                  Fk that sh!t. He does not deserve to be in the same breath as those guys! If Gay was 3 inches taller, .3 faster, and had quick feet, he's also be in Bailey/Revis air. But he's not.

                  Ike dropping balls like that isn't just a case of "If he had hands, he'd be a WR." Dropping balls like that 1st one are tantamount to getting burned on a bomb (which happened today too). He has at least 4-5 of those drops a year! Add that into his portfolio, with that context, and he's not the "shutdown CB" that he claims to be. Ike may be a solid player (proven over 10 years+ in the league). But please, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER mention this guy in the same breath as Revis/Bailey.
                  Agree on all accounts. Add Sherman to that list. Ike isn't in that class. Never has been and never will be. It's that simple. He's been a VERY solid player but he's not in that category and he's certainly not worth the money we are paying him. If Ike was in his prime right now, he still wouldn't be worth 10m/year
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • AzStillers1989
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1286

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shoe
                    Fk that sh!t. He does not deserve to be in the same breath as those guys! If Gay was 3 inches taller, .3 faster, and had quick feet, he's also be in Bailey/Revis air. But he's not.

                    Ike dropping balls like that isn't just a case of "If he had hands, he'd be a WR." Dropping balls like that 1st one are tantamount to getting burned on a bomb (which happened today too). He has at least 4-5 of those drops a year! Add that into his portfolio, with that context, and he's not the "shutdown CB" that he claims to be. Ike may be a solid player (proven over 10 years+ in the league). But please, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER mention this guy in the same breath as Revis/Bailey.
                    Ike Taylor, Champ Bailey, Darrell Revis...uh oh
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                    • steelz09
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4675

                      #40
                      Originally posted by AzStillers1989
                      Ike Taylor, Champ Bailey, Darrell Revis...uh oh
                      There is no way in hell Ike Taylor's name belongs amongst those other two. Only a Steelers fan would think so...
                      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 10281

                        #41
                        Originally posted by steelz09
                        There is no way in hell Ike Taylor's name belongs amongst those other two. Only a Steelers fan would think so...
                        Champ Bailey was abused by Joe Flacco's "chuck 'em up and pray" technique in the playoffs last year worse than Ike ever has been.
                        http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                        • steelz09
                          Administrator
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4675

                          #42
                          Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          Champ Bailey was abused by Joe Flacco's "chuck 'em up and pray" technique in the playoffs last year worse than Ike ever has been.
                          hahaha.....that is the one play you bring up because of it's visibility. I get it. the homerism is incredible around here these days. At that time, Bailey was more acient than Ike at 34.5 years old.

                          Bailey is one of the best cover CBs to ever play the game and he can actually catch the ball. To put Ike into the same category as Bailey is humourous at best and proves that you can't be objective when critiquing the Steelers "favorites".
                          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #43
                            Bailey = overrated

                            Ike = underrated
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • steelz09
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4675

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Bailey = overrated

                              Ike = underrated
                              Let me clear this up for you...

                              Bailey = HOFer

                              Ike = Not a HOFer

                              And that's a fact. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
                              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #45
                                Originally posted by steelz09
                                Let me clear this up for you...

                                Bailey = HOFer

                                Ike = Not a HOFer

                                And that's a fact. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
                                It's a good thing that my feelings aren't hurt, because I don't believe you...

                                Do you think Ike would trade his career for Bailey's?
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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