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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27564

    #31
    I think people respect AB.... I just wish they respected our running game and our OL earlier this year...

    Now that Bell is getting touches I think we will see this O continue to improve.

    Brown dropped a TD but be honest... it was shocking to see because he doesnt drop passes like Wallace did when he was here. AB leads the league in a few stats.. pretty sure he is feared by defenses.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • phillyesq
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      • May 2008
      • 7568

      #32
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      I think people respect AB.... I just wish they respected our running game and our OL earlier this year...

      Now that Bell is getting touches I think we will see this O continue to improve.

      Brown dropped a TD but be honest... it was shocking to see because he doesnt drop passes like Wallace did when he was here. AB leads the league in a few stats.. pretty sure he is feared by defenses.
      When you are facing the Steelers, he is the guy you would look at in the game plan, but I don't think he is feared. I don't see him backing off coverage or having the type of presence where there is always a deep safety.

      Against TN, McCourty was pretty much in his face all day, and he didn't really have answers.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #33
        Originally posted by phillyesq
        He was free to leave. This year. But the Steelers could have tagged him and traded him, or traded him the year before when it was apparent that he was not going to return.

        The Steelers really couldn't tag him and absorb the cap hit and still sign Brown. I think the FO correctly calculated that Brown was the more complete WR and it was better to have Brown locked up versus dealing with the potential of signing multiple WR free agents (Brown, Sanders and a tagged Wallace).

        I completely agree with you about trading Wallace. As soon as he did his nonsense about missing camp last summer I would have offered him for a trade because I think it was clear at that point that he was unsignable. Unfortunately our front office does not seem to think that way and IMO it hurts us.
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        • Oviedo
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          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #34
          Originally posted by phillyesq
          When you are facing the Steelers, he is the guy you would look at in the game plan, but I don't think he is feared. I don't see him backing off coverage or having the type of presence where there is always a deep safety.

          Against TN, McCourty was pretty much in his face all day, and he didn't really have answers.
          Do you think anyone is fearing Wallace? Seems like the league has the book on him too. I really think this is what all WRs go through not named Megatron or Andre Johnson who are just genetic freaks.

          They constantly have to evolve their game. IMO, and we may disagree, Brown has done a better job evolving his game and becoming a more complete WR than Wallace. Again IMO, Wallace is still just run fast and hope a pass falls perfectly into his arms because he has a hard time adjusting and rarely wins a fight for the ball.
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          • NJ-STEELER
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            • May 2008
            • 12563

            #35
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            Like almost every major FA, Mike Wallace was overpaid. He does not have great personal stats, but his team is doing better than the Steelers. Also, as mentioned, he is working with a new QB.

            I don't personally care for Wallace, but I also don't care for the way the situation was handled. Wallace walked for essentially nothing. The Steelers will likely get a comp pick next year, but it led ot them trading away what now looks to be a high third round pick for Schmarko.

            Wallace was a player with a unique talent on a team that could use more talent. When somebody like that walks for nothing, it leaves a hole that needs to be filled. The Steelers are a team with many needs, and a WR is among those needs. After one win against the Jets (a win in which AB dropped a TD), people seem to forget that nobody respected the Steelers WRs. Aside from the lowly Vikings, the passing game was a liability early in the year, as was the entire offense.
            exactly

            tough to keep replacing productive receivers (plax, tone, wallace) who leave for virtually nothing and expect the offense to perform at a high level.

            and like you said, trying to then replace them takes away a pick at another position of need

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27564

              #36
              Originally posted by phillyesq
              When you are facing the Steelers, he is the guy you would look at in the game plan, but I don't think he is feared. I don't see him backing off coverage or having the type of presence where there is always a deep safety.

              Against TN, McCourty was pretty much in his face all day, and he didn't really have answers.
              That's because AB doesn't run go routes all day. AB is versatile and gets most of his touches in the 5 to 10 yard range on crossong routes.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • thor75
                Pro Bowler
                • Dec 2012
                • 1038

                #37
                Interesting to note that 3 players on the Dolphins have more catches and yardage than Mike Wallace to date. He does do a good job at drawing coverage.
                1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                • fordfixer
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                  • May 2008
                  • 10931

                  #38
                  Originally posted by thor75
                  He does do a good job at drawing coverage.
                  And a pay check

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                  • Ernie
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                    • Aug 2013
                    • 8470

                    #39
                    I think the steelers did a nice job addressing the need (a Wallace replacement) in this year's draft.

                    Marcus Wheaton.. maybe just a "Tick" slower in the 40, but a much better overall receiver coming out of college. Nice pick up. Looking forward to seeing the steelers give him some opportunities to show what he can do.

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                    • eniparadoxgma
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 2193

                      #40
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
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                      • NorthCoast
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26639

                        #41
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        I think people respect AB.... I just wish they respected our running game and our OL earlier this year...

                        Now that Bell is getting touches I think we will see this O continue to improve.

                        Brown dropped a TD but be honest... it was shocking to see because he doesnt drop passes like Wallace did when he was here. AB leads the league in a few stats.. pretty sure he is feared by defenses.
                        Brown and Wallace are virtually tied in drop % this season; AB 1 drop in 60 targets, MW 1 drop in 54 targets... according to at least one website...

                        Last season AB dropped 4% of targets, MW 5%.

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                        • Discipline of Steel
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 3882

                          #42
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          exactly

                          tough to keep replacing productive receivers (plax, tone, wallace) who leave for virtually nothing and expect the offense to perform at a high level.

                          and like you said, trying to then replace them takes away a pick at another position of need
                          I don't see the point? Mike Wallace has been adequately accounted for with Wheaton and a comp pick next year. I predict ABs career will be much longer and more productive than MWs.
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                          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                            • May 2008
                            • 10287

                            #43
                            Originally posted by NorthCoast
                            Brown and Wallace are virtually tied in drop % this season; AB 1 drop in 60 targets, MW 1 drop in 54 targets... according to at least one website...

                            Last season AB dropped 4% of targets, MW 5%.
                            WRT Wallace, the main issue was not that he dropped passes - although we always refer to his "drops". The main issue was that he would not make an effort on passes that were close enough to fight for. He wouldn't go after any ball that was not dropped perfectly and softly into his hands. His problem was more about no heart than no hands.
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                            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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                              • May 2008
                              • 8361

                              #44
                              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                              WRT Wallace, the main issue was not that he dropped passes - although we always refer to his "drops". The main issue was that he would not make an effort on passes that were close enough to fight for. He wouldn't go after any ball that was not dropped perfectly and softly into his hands. His problem was more about no heart than no hands.
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                              • Iron City Inc.
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 3241

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                Brown and Wallace are virtually tied in drop % this season; AB 1 drop in 60 targets, MW 1 drop in 54 targets... according to at least one website...

                                Last season AB dropped 4% of targets, MW 5%.
                                MW has a boat load of drops this year. He has looked terrible at times missing passes when he is wide open. Now he has done that before and he only has to catch a few passes a game to get 80 yds but in the long run I'll bet AB turns out to be the better player. We land a solid player with that 3rd round comp pick and that will be the icing on the cake.

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