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  • SteelBuckeye
    Backup
    • Apr 2013
    • 398

    #46
    Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
    I think Manning would adapt to the situation or adversity he faces. People didn't believe he would play as well as he did in Denver. He prove those people wrong. He adjusted to not having 100% arm strength last season.

    When Manning faces the pressure he either takes a sack, slides in the pocket, or releases the ball right before he takes a hit. Manning makes everyone he plays with better because of his preparation, ability to anticipate, and overall understanding of the game. The QB of an offense can make everyone on offense better. I believe that when a QB plays at a high level it can change the dynamic of the way defenses approaches or attacks an offense. Maybe a defense will blitz more/less or play different coverages based on the QB they face. There is no doubt in my mind that Manning would improve the Steelers scoring offense.
    If If was a fifth, we'd all be drunk. Manning isn't here. Ben is. So, why design an offense that does not play to his strengths? I know some of you believe he has none. It's like in some of your eyes he's morphed into Chad Henne and we'd be better of with anyone but him. I sure hope he isn't feeling this way. However, with the crap gameplanning and play calling along with the refusal to surround him with even one GRADE A skill player, it wouldn't surprise me if he chose not to resign here.

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    • Shoe
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4044

      #47
      Originally posted by birtikidis
      I just think it's odd how everyone thinks this team is so awful. I hate to say this, and I know everyone is going to jump all over me for saying it, but this is a 10 win team with Peyton Manning on it.
      It's possible. If you are adept at getting the ball out quickly and accurately, you'll do well in this offense... and the deficiencies in the offense will be minimized. 10 wins would be the top end, but I could certainly see it. Ben's big weakness is his inability (at least as it relates to the elite) to throw with great anticipation.
      I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #48
        Originally posted by SteelBuckeye
        If If was a fifth, we'd all be drunk. Manning isn't here. Ben is. So, why design an offense that does not play to his strengths? I know some of you believe he has none. It's like in some of your eyes he's morphed into Chad Henne and we'd be better of with anyone but him. I sure hope he isn't feeling this way. However, with the crap gameplanning and play calling along with the refusal to surround him with even one GRADE A skill player, it wouldn't surprise me if he chose not to resign here.
        The offense is designed to his strengths...he missed quite a few wide open players in Cincy...if he can complete those passes going forward, life will be good....
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • SteelBuckeye
          Backup
          • Apr 2013
          • 398

          #49
          Originally posted by Slapstick
          The offense is designed to his strengths...he missed quite a few wide open players in Cincy...if he can complete those passes going forward, life will be good....
          This offense? Designed to his strengths? If so, Haley has gone off the reservation with his play calling, limiting the ability to audible, etc etc etc. And truthfully, if the receivers/backs/TE's catch a few more catchable balls, and then actually don't fumble, life will be better than good ...

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          • winwithd
            Starter
            • Nov 2009
            • 895

            #50
            Originally posted by birtikidis
            I just think it's odd how everyone thinks this team is so awful. I hate to say this, and I know everyone is going to jump all over me for saying it, but this is a 10 win team with Peyton Manning on it.
            Peyton Manning? I'd rather have Ben. And I still think this is a 10 win team with Ben.

            I want to know why Markus Wheaton is not seeing the field. My co-worker, who is not a Steelers fan btw, jokes that he must be late for lunch every day so Tomlin's trying to teach him a lesson. Could it be Wheaton's in the doghouse for something?

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            • Eddie Spaghetti
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 4123

              #51
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              The offense is designed to his strengths...he missed quite a few wide open players in Cincy...if he can complete those passes going forward, life will be good....
              wow.....

              you can't believe that. I know you're a sunshine pumper, but c'mon man....

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #52
                So, he didn't miss open guys in Cincy?
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Chadman
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6537

                  #53
                  Anyway.... back on the subject, confronting a coach, on the sideline, during the game is the same sort of unprofessional garbage that this team did so well last season.

                  The personal fouls, showboating & general lack of respect must be coming soon.

                  We've already reached the lack of ball security level of 2012.
                  The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                  Light up the darkness.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Chadman
                    Anyway.... back on the subject, confronting a coach, on the sideline, during the game is the same sort of unprofessional garbage that this team did so well last season.

                    The personal fouls, showboating & general lack of respect must be coming soon.

                    We've already reached the lack of ball security level of 2012.
                    You know, this has never happened to Haley before...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • FujiVice
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 2

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      You know, this has never happened to Haley before...
                      Anyone who thinks this Haley offense is built to Ben's strengths has a vendetta against him.

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                      • SteelBuckeye
                        Backup
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 398

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        You know, this has never happened to Haley before...
                        Cassel, Warner, Johnson, Boldin et al. To paraphrase some posters here .. "what's the common denominator"? Haley. The man is simply a pestilence to a football team.

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                        • FujiVice
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 2

                          #57
                          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL

                          When Manning faces the pressure he either takes a sack, slides in the pocket, or releases the ball right before he takes a hit


                          THE cardinal sin. NEVER throw across your body in the middle of the field unless someone is WIDE OPEN.

                          Why didn't the Football Genius throw it away? He was outside the pocket.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            #58
                            Originally posted by FujiVice
                            Anyone who thinks this Haley offense is built to Ben's strengths has a vendetta against him.
                            I agree... I know some people have faith and want this to work but I'm not seeing it at all.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • Sugar
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3700

                              #59
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              I agree... I know some people have faith and want this to work but I'm not seeing it at all.
                              That would be me!

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #60
                                Ben's strengths are throwing the ball to the open man...

                                There were open guys and he missed them...

                                There are things that work within the offense...the Steelers would have scored in the first against TN if Redman has not fumbled the ball into the EZ...go ahead and blame Haley for that, that's cool...

                                Haley also made Paulson fumble...

                                I simply would like to see how the O performs when executed properly...Haley made the changes...he changed the terminology to make Ben and the players happy...he quit putting Beachum out there as another TE and went with more multiple WR formations...

                                What else should he do?
                                Last edited by Slapstick; 09-18-2013, 07:59 PM.
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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