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  • SteelCrazy
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 5056

    What’s this? Panic in preseason?

    Ben Roethlisberger wasn't exactly quick on the draw Monday night in Maryland, culling from the classic Ben-being-Ben playbook and causing coast-to-coast coronaries for Steelers Nation.

    But he sure was quick to address the following annoying, amateurish question from the media after that preseason loss to the Redskins: Do Ben or his mates put much stock in outside forecasts or expectations of this team for 2013?

    “Nope.”

    Yeah, you're welcome.

    Hey, someone had to ask, right?

    I mean, with all of the doom and gloom one gathers from the Internet and talk shows over where these Steelers are headed this season — assuming they don't just forfeit all 16 games on discouragement alone — it felt entirely appropriate to ask if it's become a distraction.

    To Ben's credit, he clearly took the question in the intended spirit, smiled and continued: “Well, we're two games into the preseason and we've got two more games to go, and then the regular season starts. We've got some room for improvement, but that's what this is for.”

    Beautiful. Exactly. That's what preseason is for.

    And, yet, the premature panic over the Steelers is stretching beyond the general public. Among other forums local and national, the fear of how the team “looks” in the preseason made its way into an ESPN.com commentary this week entitled, “Can Steelers Avoid Mediocrity?”

    (The glaringly obvious answer to that headline is, of course, NO, given that they just failed to avoid mediocrity in 2012 by going 8-8 and, thus, meeting the official NFL definition of mediocrity. But that's quibbling.)

    Glancing around the Web and gleaning from the various Jaworskis and Hoges and Mayocks on the tube, you'll hear predictions as dire as 7-9, even 6-10.

    Sorry, but I'm not getting that.

    And by that, I don't mean not accepting that it couldn't happen. Anything could happen in the NFL, as we're seeing with the Bengals being favored in the AFC North, even a Super Bowl pick for some. The same Bengals who employ Andy Dalton, a league-average quarterback in a league where average no longer cuts it at quarterback.

    No, what I'm not getting is the thought process that's burying the Steelers before the first snap.

    Can't be the defense.

    Not after it was ranked No. 1 in fewest yards allowed, No. 6 in fewest points allowed and will have four personnel changes — Jarvis Jones for James Harrison, Cortez Allen for Keenan Lewis, Steve McLendon for Casey Hampton and this year's LaMarr Woodley for last year's LaMarr Woodley — that all promise to address the lack of sacks and takeaways.

    Can't be Todd Haley's playcalling, can it?

    Oh, please, tell me that the regional spawning ground of Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and Joe Willie Namath isn't fussing over strategy that's aimed infinitely more at testing players than producing actual points.

    If so, Roethlisberger explained the ABCs by describing the first series, which was handoff after handoff to Le'Veon Bell, as “just wanting to establish the run and see what we've got.”

    When Haley fails to throw downfield in the real opener against the Titans, light the torches. In the interim, Roethlisberger was 5 of 6 for 66 yards Monday with a 26-yard strike to David Paulson. His shoulder's feeling “great,” he says, and the ball is moving with as much zip as anyone's seen in two years.

    Can't be the offensive line, can it?

    Well, sure, if all anyone had seen was this game. Maurkice Pouncey was way-out-of-character abysmal, and the tackles, Mike Adams and Marcus Gilbert, looked little better. But this is the franchise's youngest line since 1957, and the tackles switched sides since last season. It takes time, and there's a ton of pedigree there. The 49ers had the same problem with a gifted group this time last year, only to watch them bulldoze their way to the Super Bowl.

    Look, it isn't all sunshine and roses, either. There's “a lot of room for improvement,” as Brett Keisel was saying, and that needs to happen in a hurry.

    But if you'd have asked in June what would be the ideal No. 1 problem at this stage, I'd say the cohesion of the offensive line.

    Similarly, if you had asked what would be the ideal bright spot, I'd cite the rookies. Well, Jones is a beast, Bell is hurt now but has shown as much potential as anyone, Markus Wheaton has reached the point where Tomlin must promote him to first team, and Shamarko Thomas forced a fumble Monday.

    Think the front offices of the Ravens, Bengals and Browns have enjoyed watching all that?

    Nope.

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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #2
    I find the doom and gloom silly and premature. Call me optimistic but I believe this OL will gel, the RBs despite not having Bell will have a big year, and some young playmakers on D will really provide a much needed boost. I believe this Steeler team is an 11 win team. Guess I'm just insane.
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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Originally posted by Shawn
      I find the doom and gloom silly and premature. Call me optimistic but I believe this OL will gel, the RBs despite not having Bell will have a big year, and some young playmakers on D will really provide a much needed boost. I believe this Steeler team is an 11 win team. Guess I'm just insane.
      I agree with what you say. I think the OL is work in progress but will get better baring injuries. Dwyer will do fine at RB along with Stephens-Howiling.

      Still not sold we have playmakers on defense yet because I don't believe they will get the reps they should. I just hope Timmons gets more opportunities to go after the QB.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #4
        I think Jones will be the starter by midseason at the latest. I think Thomas will get some PT as a nickle, Golden will se the field due to injury that is bound to happen at the safety position, and I'm hoping for big things from Heyward.
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        • Captain QB
          Backup
          • May 2013
          • 180

          #5
          Perhaps the reason there is panic in the preseason is because we're seeing the same crappy small ball offense that we saw most of last year's regular season.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #6
            Are you ever happy with the Steelers team Crash?
            Trolls are people too.

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            • flippy
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              #7
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              I agree with what you say. I think the OL is work in progress but will get better baring injuries. Dwyer will do fine at RB along with Stephens-Howiling.

              Still not sold we have playmakers on defense yet because I don't believe they will get the reps they should. I just hope Timmons gets more opportunities to go after the QB.
              We have a stockpile of playmakers on D. Just not on the DLine. Unfortunately the NT is the key to the 3-4 and I'm still not 100% confident we have the answer at NT in McClendon. I like the guy, just not sure I'm confident in him as the key to our entire defense.
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              • ikestops85
                Hall of Famer
                • Jun 2008
                • 3724

                #8
                Originally posted by Captain QB
                Perhaps the reason there is panic in the preseason is because we're seeing the same crappy small ball offense that we saw most of last year's regular season.
                I loved the way our offense developed through the first 9 games of last year. It was after all the injuries that it started to look bad.

                I still say if this offensive line gels (looks like a big if right now) then our running game gets going and we have the best play action QB in the NFL playing for us right now that will lead to a successful offense. If the line doesn't gel and we have to depend on Ben doing it by himself play after play then we are looking at another 8-8 season.
                As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                but Go Steelers!!!

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Captain QB
                  Perhaps the reason there is panic in the preseason is because we're seeing the same crappy small ball offense that we saw most of last year's regular season.
                  Did you not hear the quote the man who can do no wrong; Ben?
                  "Roethlisberger explained the ABCs by describing the first series, which was handoff after handoff to Le'Veon Bell, as “just wanting to establish the run and see what we've got."

                  He knows what time it is. The playcalling for THE ENTIRE GAME reflected similar priorities. Ben deep to Brown isnt gonna decide a roster spot. Runs and screens to runningback by Ben DOES.

                  Where did the "small ball" go when the backup QBs who need the work came in? I saw AIR LANDRY. Gradkowski hitting Wheaton.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Are you ever happy with the Steelers team Crash?
                    Shawn, do you remember Crash moaning and groaning about how Ben was being wasted under BC and that WE WOULD NEVER win a Superbowl with Cowher.....Same stuff as today. That same season Ben and Cowher won their 1st SB.

                    Crash got called out repeatedly while trying to celebrate the win with the rest of us.
                    Ahhh great memories.
                    Here we go "WASTING" Ben again.
                    Wouldn't mind a repeat of THAT glorious outcome.
                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-22-2013, 12:22 PM.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • Captain QB
                      Backup
                      • May 2013
                      • 180

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      Are you ever happy with the Steelers team Crash?
                      Didn't know you had multiple accounts here Slapstick.

                      You can be a fan of a team and not be a blind homer.

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Captain QB
                        Didn't know you had multiple accounts here Slapstick.

                        You can be a fan of a team and not be a blind homer.
                        Crash, we have been debating for over a decade. I was shawnmedguy at the Trib. Not...slap.

                        I agree with your second statement. But, it's also ok being happy with your team occasionally. I have never seen that from you even when the years the Steelers won Super Bowls.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Captain QB
                          Didn't know you had multiple accounts here Slapstick.

                          You can be a fan of a team and not be a blind homer.
                          Not entirely true. You must be a "blind homer" when it comes to the defense and LeBeau and not dare question whether we are doing the right things. If you do you risk a virtual lynching
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • 7 UP
                            Starter
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 878

                            #14
                            Since when did calling it the way it is become doom and gloom. It is what it is. As Tomlin would say they are what they put on film. Whats on film through two preseason games has been miserable. Now we are down a starting running back. The line looks as bad as we all thought it might. And the play calling has been disturbing. Combine that with bad penalties and turnovers and there you have it. What else are people supposed to talk about?

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 7 UP
                              Since when did calling it the way it is become doom and gloom?
                              When people started taking message boards too serious and taking things too personal.
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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