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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35314

    Mike Wallace's departure could prove beneficial for Steelers

    Wallace's departure could prove beneficial for Steelers

    August 16, 2013
    By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



    The Steelers' Antonio Brown hauls in a pass to the corner against the Giants' Corey Webster in the preseason opening game.

    Can the Steelers wide receivers be more productive without Mike Wallace, one of the top deep threats in the NFL?

    The players entrusted with taking over the position -- Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders -- think so. And so, too, does offensive coordinator Todd Haley.

    Last year, the receiving corps underachieved as much as, if not more than, any unit on the team, perhaps because so much was expected of them. Dropped passes, inexplicable fumbles and muffed chances in the end zone stood out more and had a bigger impact than the plays they happened to make.

    And Brown, for one, is determined to change that.

    "I think we can be an awfully lot better," said Brown, who has been elevated to the No. 1 receiver with the departure of Wallace. "That's the mentality of our group -- we're hungry and motivated."

    Wallace, Brown and Sanders combined for 174 catches, 2,259 yards and 14 touchdowns in 2012. So how can two of them be better this season without Wallace?

    "First and foremost, we got to protect the ball and make big plays," Brown said. "You get caught up trying to make that big play and you lose the ball. And the ball is the most important thing you got. That's what you got to learn to protect."

    Haley, though, does not easily dismiss the loss of Wallace, who averaged 17.2 yards per catch in four seasons with the Steelers and had more touchdowns of 40 yards or longer with Ben Roethlisberger (14) than any active duo in the NFL.

    But as a unit, Haley believes the wide receivers have a chance to be more productive because he thinks Sanders is better suited to playing on the outside than in the slot, the position he mostly played last year.

    With Sanders on the outside, Jerricho Cotchery will be the slot receiver, and Haley thinks he is better suited for that position than Sanders.

    "I like the way we're lining up in three-receiver sets," Haley said. "We're playing to both guys strengths by lining A.B. and Emmanuel outside and Jerricho inside because that inside receiver is such a huge part of the run game. And Jerricho has been tremendous.

    "Emmanuel did it last year, but it doesn't fit his stature. I think he's a much better outside receiver. I'm excited about lining up with three receivers."

    Said Sanders: "There's a lot more traffic in the slot. You got to be worried about linebackers and safeties. On the outside, your primary worry is the cornerback. It's a different feel. The slot is more of a controlled position. In the slot you got to be more patient. You got to give the coverage time to form. On the outside, it's more 1-on-1."

    Sanders, though, stopped short of saying he will be more productive on the outside.
    "I'm flexible, no matter what," Sanders said. "I'm a football player. It doesn't matter. I like to play football. I got a big opportunity ahead of me. I know if I stay healthy, the rest will take care of itself."

    In addition, the Steelers believe they have a receiver -- rookie Markus Wheaton, a third-round choice -- who could be a better fit in their offense than Wallace, who was often referred to as a "one-trick pony" by coach Mike Tomlin.

    Wheaton runs good routes, uses his body in the middle of the field better than Wallace and has the type of speed (4.3 in the 40-yard dash) and ability to make plays after the catch.

    "I like our offense," said cornerback Ike Taylor, who defends those receivers in practice. "We got a rookie in Wheaton who's not playing like a rookie, doesn't act like a rookie; he looks like a veteran. Of course he's going to make rookie mistakes because he's a rookie. But just watching over the course of the past few weeks, the guy's smart, the guy's polished. I can't wait to see him playing during the season."

    The Steelers carried only four receivers on the 53-man roster for most of last season and didn't add a fifth, Plaxico Burress, until Brown injured his ankle in Week 9. They could add another this season, especially if rookie Justin Brown, their sixth-round draft choice, shows something as a return specialist.

    Brown transferred from Penn State to Oklahoma for his senior season, in part because he wanted to go to a school that relied more on a pass-oriented attack. He said he wasn't thinking about a possible NFL career when he made the move, but he showed enough in one season -- 73 catches, 879 yards, five touchdowns -- to attract the Steelers' attention.

    But after his transfer, Penn State opened its offense under new coach Bill O'Brien and the receiver who replaced Brown, Allen Robinson, had a big year, catching 77 passes for 1,018 yards and 11 touchdowns.

    "I wasn't surprised," Brown said. "I'd seen Allen practice, I knew how he was as a player, how athletic he was. He just wasn't in the right offense at first. That new offense they got, throwing the ball around, that's good."

    But Brown said he did learn something at Penn State that could help him with the Steelers.

    "I was learning how to be physical in the run game, blocking," Brown said. "That's real important here, too."

    Almost as important as re-discovering production from the wide receivers.

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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23775

    #2
    I've said this all along. I think this will absolutley prove to be more beneficial in the long run. Wheaton will prove to be a more complete WR and more than a "one trick" pony that Wallace is. Add in Justin Brown and we will be just fine.

    Our challenge is not going to be at WR, it will be at TE where we don't have a TE who any opponent would worry about offensively. That is going to hurt us until Heath can come back and play at 100%.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • phillyesq
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 7568

      #3
      All this optimism in the preseason is great, but I'm still worried about Sanders. He didn't make much of his opportunity when he started last year, and I don't see how a defense not having to account for Wallace's speed is going to help him.

      Wheaton's potential sounds great, but he is essentially replacing Sanders, and Sanders is replacing Wallace.

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      • sedatedsteelerfan
        Backup
        • Aug 2013
        • 199

        #4
        I agree. Wallace definitely assisted Brown 2 seasons ago when he had his great season. Last year, Brown was hurt in a few games, but Wallae didn't have a bad season. It was more like new OC Todd Haley phased out Wallace because he faded out the 9 pattern. But Mike Wallace, at least to me was a great WR and a great Steeler. He never one time ever complained or B!tched about his Salary early on when he was a great 3rd round surprise. He never ever showed up late to training camp, or was ever out of shape. And never did anyone ever hear a word about any off the field stuff with Wallace.


        Yes, I believe under THIS offense, our WR can get it done. Especially with a better RB in Bell who can be a threat in the passing game as well. But that is NOT to say Mike Wallae wasn't great here, and won't be missed. I wish him well.

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23775

          #5
          Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
          I agree. Wallace definitely assisted Brown 2 seasons ago when he had his great season. Last year, Brown was hurt in a few games, but Wallae didn't have a bad season. It was more like new OC Todd Haley phased out Wallace because he faded out the 9 pattern. But Mike Wallace, at least to me was a great WR and a great Steeler. He never one time ever complained or B!tched about his Salary early on when he was a great 3rd round surprise. He never ever showed up late to training camp, or was ever out of shape. And never did anyone ever hear a word about any off the field stuff with Wallace.


          Yes, I believe under THIS offense, our WR can get it done. Especially with a better RB in Bell who can be a threat in the passing game as well. But that is NOT to say Mike Wallae wasn't great here, and won't be missed. I wish him well.
          Did you miss that he blew off camp last season when we were implementing a new offense????
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • sedatedsteelerfan
            Backup
            • Aug 2013
            • 199

            #6
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Did you miss that he blew off camp last season when we were implementing a new offense????




            No he didn't cause he technically was a free agent. He was NOT under contract, so how could he blow off anything ? Blowing off would be what Hines Ward did in 2001, when under contract, he held out ause he wanted a new RESTRUTURED deal. During his 2nd & 3rd seasons, when Wallae was tearing it up for us, and making back & back pro bowls...Mike was making less then 300,000 a year, and even though I heard reports that Mike's then agent told him to hold out...Mike never did. So please sir, get your facts straight before you attempt to try and Wax Intellectual. Mike Wallace did NOT hold out last training Camp.

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #7
              Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
              No he didn't cause he technically was a free agent. He was NOT under contract, so how could he blow off anything ? Blowing off would be what Hines Ward did in 2001, when under contract, he held out ause he wanted a new RESTRUTURED deal. During his 2nd & 3rd seasons, when Wallae was tearing it up for us, and making back & back pro bowls...Mike was making less then 300,000 a year, and even though I heard reports that Mike's then agent told him to hold out...Mike never did. So please sir, get your facts straight before you attempt to try and Wax Intellectual. Mike Wallace did NOT hold out last training Camp.
              Exactly. Never once did I see anything about Wallace being a bad teammate or a character concern off the field. I also think that this years crew can get it done in the offense they have. That doesn't mean that Mike wasn't valuable to this year. They got some good years out of him on the cheap.

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              • hawaiiansteel
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                • May 2008
                • 35314

                #8
                Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                Mike Wallace, at least to me was a great WR and a great Steeler.
                Mike Wallace will not be remembered as being a great Steeler...

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                • Steelerphile
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1198

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  All this optimism in the preseason is great, but I'm still worried about Sanders. He didn't make much of his opportunity when he started last year, and I don't see how a defense not having to account for Wallace's speed is going to help him.

                  Wheaton's potential sounds great, but he is essentially replacing Sanders, and Sanders is replacing Wallace.
                  Sanders had his best season last year. He had 626 yards, which was 250 more than he had previously; so I am baffled why you say he didn't do much all the time. He averaged 14.2 yards which was his highest. So, I disagree, he did pretty well. Mike Wallace was targeted 119 times and had 836 yards. While Sanders was targeted 74 times and had 626 yards. So, Sanders was much more productive with his opportunities last year than Wallace. I have a lot of confidence in Sanders. If healthy, 2013 will be his best season. He will be more comfortable in his position, outside. 1,000 yards is a strong possibility, but Wheaton should get his share also.

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                  • sedatedsteelerfan
                    Backup
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 199

                    #10
                    Sanders had more yards last season then the previous season. But he was not CLOSE to the production of Wallace. Answer me this, with his 626 yards and 44 catches...how many TD's did Sanders have ?................Yeah, I thought so. Once close to the goalline, both Sanders and Brown are both hindered by their lack of size. Wallace was not. And trust me, we might just end up missing the Double-Digit TD's that Wallace gave us. And whether Sanders has a 1,000 plus yard season, it still won't matter cause Pittsburgh will just let him walk outright. And we will get nothing for him except MAYBE a 4th round pick in 2016.

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                      Sanders had more yards last season then the previous season. But he was not CLOSE to the production of Wallace. Answer me this, with his 626 yards and 44 catches...how many TD's did Sanders have ?................Yeah, I thought so. Once close to the goalline, both Sanders and Brown are both hindered by their lack of size. Wallace was not. And trust me, we might just end up missing the Double-Digit TD's that Wallace gave us. And whether Sanders has a 1,000 plus yard season, it still won't matter cause Pittsburgh will just let him walk outright. And we will get nothing for him except MAYBE a 4th round pick in 2016.
                      In 2012 Wallace had 13 rec and 5 TDs inside opponents 20. Sanders had 4 rec and 2 TDs. If given the opportunity, I think Sanders can be a big part of the red zone offense.

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                      • Steelerphile
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1198

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                        Sanders had more yards last season then the previous season. But he was not CLOSE to the production of Wallace. Answer me this, with his 626 yards and 44 catches...how many TD's did Sanders have ?................Yeah, I thought so. Once close to the goalline, both Sanders and Brown are both hindered by their lack of size. Wallace was not. And trust me, we might just end up missing the Double-Digit TD's that Wallace gave us. And whether Sanders has a 1,000 plus yard season, it still won't matter cause Pittsburgh will just let him walk outright. And we will get nothing for him except MAYBE a 4th round pick in 2016.
                        Sanders was not close to Wallace production is 2012? I don't think that's true. The reason why I posted the number of targets and yards was to give an indication of how productive the players were in relation to the number of passes that were thrown to them. Wallace was targeted 119 times and had 836 yards. That is 7.03 yards per target. Sanders had 626 yards with 74 targets. That is 8.46 yards per target. This is an indication of how much more production the Steelers got throwing to Sanders last year as opposed to Wallace. I think it is also an indication that Wallace gave up on some passes more easily than he really should have last year.

                        Are you suggesting the Steelers won't be able to score TDs passing to the receivers without Wallace? They'll get TDS passing and Sanders has the capability to get those. We'll see but I doubt it will be a big problem. Sanders and Brown are both better route runners and can get open and are big enough to catch TD passes.

                        Maybe he'll walk after the season and maybe not. I'm not worried about contracts or anything but the upcoming season.

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                        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 10113

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                          Sanders had more yards last season then the previous season. But he was not CLOSE to the production of Wallace. Answer me this, with his 626 yards and 44 catches...how many TD's did Sanders have ?................Yeah, I thought so. Once close to the goalline, both Sanders and Brown are both hindered by their lack of size. Wallace was not. And trust me, we might just end up missing the Double-Digit TD's that Wallace gave us. And whether Sanders has a 1,000 plus yard season, it still won't matter cause Pittsburgh will just let him walk outright. And we will get nothing for him except MAYBE a 4th round pick in 2016.
                          Hard to judge what Sanders will do this year based on previous year's numbers, for either him or Wallace. He will be a starter now instead of just coming in with 3WR sets. More opportunity but also more defensive attention. One thing that he will hopefully have is a better run game than in recent years to help take some of the pressure off of the receiving game. Let's see how he feels about getting his nose dirty in that Hines kind of way.
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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23775

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sedatedsteelerfan
                            No he didn't cause he technically was a free agent. He was NOT under contract, so how could he blow off anything ? Blowing off would be what Hines Ward did in 2001, when under contract, he held out ause he wanted a new RESTRUTURED deal. During his 2nd & 3rd seasons, when Wallae was tearing it up for us, and making back & back pro bowls...Mike was making less then 300,000 a year, and even though I heard reports that Mike's then agent told him to hold out...Mike never did. So please sir, get your facts straight before you attempt to try and Wax Intellectual. Mike Wallace did NOT hold out last training Camp.
                            No, Wallace blew off camp. He was past the date when other teams could sign him away so he was a free agent in name only and still he stayed away from camp when a new offensive system was being introduced. So it is you who needs to get your facts straight.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steelerphile
                              Sanders had his best season last year. He had 626 yards, which was 250 more than he had previously; so I am baffled why you say he didn't do much all the time. He averaged 14.2 yards which was his highest. So, I disagree, he did pretty well. Mike Wallace was targeted 119 times and had 836 yards. While Sanders was targeted 74 times and had 626 yards. So, Sanders was much more productive with his opportunities last year than Wallace. I have a lot of confidence in Sanders. If healthy, 2013 will be his best season. He will be more comfortable in his position, outside. 1,000 yards is a strong possibility, but Wheaton should get his share also.
                              He had one game with 82 yards receiving (one of 2 career games in which he exceeded 80 yards). Other than that, he did not exceed 60 yards in any game. And there were a few starts in there.

                              That profile says to me "just a guy" more than it does "rising star."

                              I consider that disappointing production

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