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  • thor75
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2012
    • 1038

    #76
    Originally posted by phillyesq
    Interesting take from Dale Lolley, in the comments section of his blog:



    Reading that I'm even more on board with Sanders leaving.
    Sanders more disgruntled than Wallace, I find thatsurprising. SMU coaches held him in high regard coming out of school. Seems like a great teammate to me, but I'm not around the team obviously.
    1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
    2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
    4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
    5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
    5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
    6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
    6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
    7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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    • hawaiiansteel
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 35649

      #77
      Originally posted by thor75
      Sanders more disgruntled than Wallace, I find thatsurprising. SMU coaches held him in high regard coming out of school. Seems like a great teammate to me, but I'm not around the team obviously.
      while at SMU, Sanders was suspended for the final two games of the 2008 season because he was late twice to study hall and another time to practice.

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      • thor75
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2012
        • 1038

        #78
        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        while at SMU, Sanders was suspended for the final two games of the 2008 season because he was late twice to study hall and another time to practice.
        Interesting, I guess they were just giving the typical "he's a great person" spiel.
        1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
        2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
        3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
        4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
        5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
        5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
        6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
        6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
        7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3937

          #79
          Well...It was only speculation but perhaps it had some roots. If Sanders goes to the Pats, only Brown will remain from the original "Young Money". So Wallace, Sanders, Lewis, & Saunders all pushed or allowed ot walk out the door. Maybe Young Money was more about the money than focus.

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          • phillyesq
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 7568

            #80
            Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
            Well...It was only speculation but perhaps it had some roots. If Sanders goes to the Pats, only Brown will remain from the original "Young Money". So Wallace, Sanders, Lewis, & Saunders all pushed or allowed ot walk out the door. Maybe Young Money was more about the money than focus.
            Saw this on Sanders:

            [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/4/11/4210350/Steelers-Emmanuel-Sanders-Patriots-Twitter[/URL]

            Who knows what it means, but it could be that he and Wallace were both po'd and jealous and Brown getting paid first. Maybe just speculation, but who knows.

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            • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3937

              #81
              Originally posted by phillyesq
              Saw this on Sanders:

              [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/4/11/4210350/Steelers-Emmanuel-Sanders-Patriots-Twitter[/URL]

              Who knows what it means, but it could be that he and Wallace were both po'd and jealous and Brown getting paid first. Maybe just speculation, but who knows.
              That is the kind of flavor I heard about "some" in that crew. Very talented players...Not Steeler material. Best friend Benjamin.

              They can all go find their Rack City...B!tch.

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              • DukieBoy
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3488

                #82
                Listened to Bouchette's rationale for letting him go to the Pats, and it changed my perspective on this. Bouchette advocates letting him go and get the 3rd round pick, rather than sign him at risk for what might be one year and then he's gone for nothing in return.

                Bouchette critiques in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... ???





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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #83
                  Originally posted by DukieBoy
                  Listened to Bouchette's rationale for letting him go to the Pats, and it changed my perspective on this. Bouchette advocates letting him go and get the 3rd round pick, rather than sign him at risk for what might be one year and then he's gone for nothing in return.

                  Bouchette critiques in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... ???
                  makes sense to me, especially if Sanders wants more money than the Steelers are willing to pay him.

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                  • Jooser
                    Legend
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5102

                    #84
                    It's sound logic, that's exactly what a lot of folks thought about Wallace last year, and guess what happened....
                    ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                    • flippy
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

                      #85
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      makes sense to me, especially if Sanders wants more money than the Steelers are willing to pay him.
                      Given our track record recently, he'll probably be back in another year.
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                      • SanAntonioSteelerFan
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 8361

                        #86
                        I'm not smart enough to know whether letting him go now in return for something of value, to avoid losing losing him next year and getting NOTHING in return, is the right move but ....

                        All I do know is Ben isn't getting any younger, and at some point we have to stop saying "manana/next year" and start saying "This year we start our 2-year plan for bringing Lombardi 7 home, at all costs ...".

                        Seems like the FO is just treading water, when we need to start sprinting now, or at least immediately after this last turn of the race that we're two strokes away from. I would feel much better if I had the feeling they were going to try their best to win SB 7 this year or next, rather than making "prudent" financial decisions. Maybe they are doing the right thing, and I'm too ignorant to see it, but I kind of see things going on now as being in the penny-wise/pound foolish mode.


                        We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                        HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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                        • Eich
                          Legend
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 7043

                          #87
                          Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
                          I'm not smart enough to know whether letting him go now in return for something of value, to avoid losing losing him next year and getting NOTHING in return, is the right move but ....

                          All I do know is Ben isn't getting any younger, and at some point we have to stop saying "manana/next year" and start saying "This year we start our 2-year plan for bringing Lombardi 7 home, at all costs ...".

                          Seems like the FO is just treading water, when we need to start sprinting now, or at least immediately after this last turn of the race that we're two strokes away from. I would feel much better if I had the feeling they were going to try their best to win SB 7 this year or next, rather than making "prudent" financial decisions. Maybe they are doing the right thing, and I'm too ignorant to see it, but I kind of see things going on now as being in the penny-wise/pound foolish mode.

                          While I see your point, what can we reallistically do given our cap situation? The cap dictates what teams can do. At some point, all the stuff we did over the past several years to get the rings we got has caught up and you have to rebuild at some point. Retaining Sanders won't be the difference between championship or not this next season. Getting someone from the draft has a chance at getting us someone better than Sanders.

                          Best we can hope for is that the rebuilding process happens while Ben still has gas left in the tank - and hope that we can find another franchise QB when Ben is gone.

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                          • Steelerphile
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1198

                            #88
                            Contract situations and money concerns crop up every year for the Steelers. I don't think they should override every other concern. I say sign him because it would not cost them a lot. If they have him one season and that is the way it works out then let the future take care of itself. I dislike the idea of always formulating your roster based on concerns about a future contract. Do what is best for the team today because most of you cannot predict how the future play out.

                            I think Sanders would be better for the team this year than a rookie or any of the FA names mentioned. It is a little speculative because so far he has not been a full-time starter. It is encouraging that Belicik thinks of him highly. He hasn't won all those games being a poor judge of talent. On this point, I agree with him.

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                            • Mister Pittsburgh
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3674

                              #89
                              Let him go! This is a deep draft and Tomlin/ Colbert have proven they can draft DB's and WR's. If we can somehow trade 1:17 to Miami for their two seconds, or trade down in the first with the Vikes for one of their two first rounders plus a third and fourth, then we could be in business. The Vikes may be eager to move up for a true impact player they covet, and the Phins are trying to level the playing field with the Pats. We could trade down in the first, draft Eifert who is a day one starter, and position ourselves to take advantage of this deep WR, RB, and S draft....3 areas we need, while still leaving picks to address other needs.
                              @_Hellgrammite

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                              • BURGH86STEEL
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 6921

                                #90
                                Originally posted by steelblood
                                Sure for this year, but we are talking about one year for Sanders vs four years for a third round pick. Sanders is a good player, but he is not elite and he has an extensive injury history. This is a really close call, imho. I'd probably let him walk.
                                Teams can plan for long term situations and short term situations. The Steelers have done well because they have short term and long term plans. Sanders can be in the plans for the Steelers and Pats in the short term or long term. Short term for one team this season. Sanders long term future will depend on how well he performs this season.

                                Teams never know what will get out of a 3rd round pick. Most 3rd round picks never become starters. The Steelers and Pats don't have 3 to 4 years to wait for a 3rd round pick to develop because of the situation at QB.

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