Pats sign Sanders

[Oviedo]

Offensive skill players can get on the field faster once they get the playbook down. That 3rd round pick isn't the replacement necessarily. They could use a 1st or 2nd too. Just consider this. Holmes was a 1st and came in and played in 16 games starting 4 with 49/824 his rookie year. Wallace was a 3rd and came in and played in 16 games starting 4 with 39/756 his rookie year. Sanders a 3rd pitched in 28/376 his rookie year. You can get production from a rookie WR...If you don't miss. You are correct, if Sanders stays healthy this should be his most produtive year to date. The hinge to all of this is where he fits in next year regardless of what he does in 2013. If he isn't in their plans...They need to take the pick and just move on a year earlier. The odds are good that a vet FA and/or Rookie will give you equal production in 2013 and you get compensation for your lost investment.

Defensive players should be able to get on the field early too. They do it all over the NFL. Only one person is preventing that from happening in Pittsburgh.

[Jooser]

Defensive players should be able to get on the field early too. They do it all over the NFL. Only one person is preventing that from happening in Pittsburgh.

Playing Fantasy Football does not qualify you to be the in the front office or on the coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are professionals and you are not!

'nuff said.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Defensive players should be able to get on the field early too. They do it all over the NFL. Only one person is preventing that from happening in Pittsburgh.

They do around the NFL but there are some plugged in early who don't do anything and some that watch from the sideline. A one gap DL can get on the field because when he picks up the play book he can pin his ears back & go. Then many will jump on the "GO to 4-3" argument then. For as easy as it is to get those DL on the field it is difficult to find the LBs behind them. Look at the Steelers roster. They have one NFL caliber 4-3 LB who would excel. The next closest thing to a 4-3 LB on the roster is Rolle and he didn't play a snap for the Steelers. If & when Spence gets healthy you may have another but you see the process.

If there no "star" in front of them...Steelers Defensive players aren't getting on the field because the can't grasp assignment. Yes...It has alot to do with the DL scheme but that is just the reality of it. Will Butler's D be the same if he is the next man? Who knows. Many should have seen an example of it last year when Victorian & Golden were forced on to the field. Yes they were both undrafted and there were better athletes on the sideline. But apparently they were the furthest along with the DL IQ and there were many times you could see they were caught thinking on plays. The issue won't be forced because the drop off in production can't be recovered. DL would rather have 11 guys on the field in the right place at the right time than 11 great athletes not knowing where to be. The dreaded DL "BE safe than sorry" Defense. It keeps working not matter how many times we throw dirt on him.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

'nuff said.

If you are referring to me Jooser I never played fantasy football in my life. 'nuff said

[phillyesq]

Defensive players should be able to get on the field early too. They do it all over the NFL. Only one person is preventing that from happening in Pittsburgh.

There is a very simple reason why offensive players see the field earlier. When you run multiple WR sets, there are more opportunities for WRs to see the field early. For, example, an OLB, there are fewer defensive formations with multiple OLBs. And you are not going to sit guys like Woodley and Harrison to play somebody before they are young.

You repeat the same crap in every thread (this one about a WR), but you've never once provided a scintilla of support for your positions, which you state as known facts. To the contrary, you repeatedly ignore that young players who adapt early and show they are ready (like Cortez Allen) play early.

[steelblood]

You are 100% right...It is about if the Steelers plans are long term with Sanders. They need to ask themsleves, if Sanders has a70/1,100 6TDs year, Will they try and retain him? If the answer is yes..You consider matching. But here is my twist to the whole situation. Year 1 has to match the offer sheet. If they want him in the long term plans...You bring him in NOW and set him & his agent down. Before you match you talk about an extension this year. You know the Pats have done this based upon the 1 year offer sheet. You see where they are right now before the 2013 season for a long term extension. See where they draw the line now and you will have a better idea of the "If we can afford him" part. Maybe the Pats devalued him and if the staff has great confidence in him...The Steelers can do the long term and get him at a bargain. Might be worth the risk. The other side of the process would be you can see if the Pats inflated his value even before his 2013 season. In this case, even though you want Sanders long term...You may now know you won't be able to come to terms & you don't match. Take the pick.

Problem is that if Sanders has a great year, the Steelers won't be able to afford him.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Interesting thing on Twitter. Bouchette posted something on Sulia that refered to Sanders as a "Lame Duck" if they match & not extend.

[URL]http://sulia.com/channel/pittsburgh-steelers/f/63574b63-c7c8-4805-af23-0727fee0b191/?source=twitter[/URL]

Sanders Tweet:

Emmanuel Sanders@E_Sanders88[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/E_Sanders88/status/322458004458991618"]17h[/URL]Lame duck huh? lol ok... JUST DISRESPECTFUL �� RT [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/EdBouchette"]@EdBouchette[/URL]: reasons [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/search?q=%23Steelers&src=hash"]#Steelers[/URL] should let [URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/search?q=%23Patriots&src=hash"]#Patriots[/URL] have Sanders :[URL="http://t.co/gSigyFymK6"]http://sulia.com/my_thoughts/63574b63-c7c8-4805-af23-0727fee0b191/?source=twitter …[/URL]

[Jooser]

If you are referring to me Jooser I never played fantasy football in my life. 'nuff said

I didn't quote you and I'm not referring to you.

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I didn't quote you and I'm not referring to you.

Quted a reponse to me...Thought you were. My Bad.

[phillyesq]

Clayton is reporting that there is a split in the FO re: Sanders:

John Clayton @ClaytonESPN[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/ClaytonESPN/status/322744395260637187"]8m[/URL] Steelers are 50-50 whether to match Emmanuel Sanders offer sheet. Some in org. want the 3rd round pick. Others want the player.

I hope this comes down on the side of the pick.

I would much rather have the pick and the extra cap space (to be used for, perhaps, Breaston and Bradshaw) than one year of a player who is likely to be disgruntled. Sanders will either play well and price himself out of the Steelers range or continue to perform at his current level (subpar #2, average #3) in which case, he is easily replaceable. If he isn't part of the long term plans, move on now and get something for him.

[thor75]

Clayton is reporting that there is a split in the FO re: Sanders:



I hope this comes down on the side of the pick.

I would much rather have the pick and the extra cap space (to be used for, perhaps, Breaston and Bradshaw) than one year of a player who is likely to be disgruntled. Sanders will either play well and price himself out of the Steelers range or continue to perform at his current level (subpar #2, average #3) in which case, he is easily replaceable. If he isn't part of the long term plans, move on now and get something for him.

I'm also leaning on that side. At least you get something in return. I'm fine with Cotchery, I think he has reliable hands and would not be a huge dropoff. I'm not sold on Breaston or Bradshaw. I'll let the FO decide on that. I'm on the fence with both.

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Problem is that if Sanders has a great year, the Steelers won't be able to afford him.

Which is what I said.

[steelblood]

Which is what I said.

wait. Am I supposed to read your entire text AND understand your point?

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

wait. Am I supposed to read your entire text AND understand your point?

No...We should just agree on everything since we been here so long. Save us time & lots of typing & reading.

[flippy]

Clayton is reporting that there is a split in the FO re: Sanders:



I hope this comes down on the side of the pick.

I would much rather have the pick and the extra cap space (to be used for, perhaps, Breaston and Bradshaw) than one year of a player who is likely to be disgruntled. Sanders will either play well and price himself out of the Steelers range or continue to perform at his current level (subpar #2, average #3) in which case, he is easily replaceable. If he isn't part of the long term plans, move on now and get something for him.

If the coaches want him, he's gone. If the front office wants him, then he'll stay. I think there's this unspoken FU to Tomlin and staff like there's been toward Ben for the last few years.

Everyone seems to think Wally and Mendy were the disgruntled locker room cancers. But I'm starting to think there's a bigger cancer and it's between the owner, coaches, and Ben. This team chemistry thing is bigger than the players. And it might turn out ok with old man Rooney back his break in Ireland.

I don't think it's just a coincidence that things starts busting apart at the seams when he left.