5 reasons why losing K Lewis is not a bad thing.

[Siggy00]

That being the case, then you have answered your own question about why Lewis started over Cortez Allen....

But if he thought Allen was the better player to the point they are letting Lewis walk, then he's an idiot for having Allen as a backup for most of the season.

[ikestops85]

Worked for Dom Capers in Pittsburgh.

Really? What rookies started. I see Levon Kirkland sat on the bench under Capers. So did Joel Steed for most of the year. Willie Williams sat on the bench for his first 2 years. I really don't see any difference between the way Capers used his players and LeBeau uses his players. If the guy is good enough to earn his way on the field he plays.

[Siggy00]

Really? What rookies started. I see Levon Kirkland sat on the bench under Capers. So did Joel Steed for most of the year. Willie Williams sat on the bench for his first 2 years. I really don't see any difference between the way Capers used his players and LeBeau uses his players. If the guy is good enough to earn his way on the field he plays.

Who said anything about starting? LeBeau's rookies don't see the field hardly at all.

Kirkland saw spot duty in 1992, hell he played DEFENSIVE LINE in Cowher's first game.

1993 Chad Brown was a rush end specialist, Deon Figures was the nickel back. Willie Williams also saw time on the field in 1993.

1994 Brentson Buckner saw action at DT/DE and took over full time when Gerald Williams got hurt. Jason Gildon inherited the rush end role Chad Brown had in 1993 because Brown was a starting ILB in 1994.

It's not even close. Not only does LeBeau not play his rookies, he and DL coach John Mitchell actually COACH their DL's to be something they weren't in college, thus negating the reasons we drafted them in the first place.

[Slapstick]

But if he thought Allen was the better player to the point they are letting Lewis walk, then he's an idiot for having Allen as a backup for most of the season.

But if he thought Lewis was the better player to the point that they let Gay walk, then he's an idiot for having Lewis as a backup for most of his first three seasons.

Or, maybe he just thought that neither Lewis nor Allen were quite ready until their respective opportunities came up...

[Siggy00]

But if he thought Lewis was the better player to the point that they let Gay walk, then he's an idiot for having Lewis as a backup for most of his first three seasons.

Absolutely.

Opportunities my ass. Like my examples above show, it's the mindset of the coaches who run the system.

This defense is allegedly so hard to know that Darren Perry was a starter the MINUTE we drafted him.

Capers coaches, LeBeau doesn't.

[Oviedo]

Who said anything about starting? LeBeau's rookies don't see the field hardly at all.

Kirkland saw spot duty in 1992, hell he played DEFENSIVE LINE in Cowher's first game.

1993 Chad Brown was a rush end specialist, Deon Figures was the nickel back. Willie Williams also saw time on the field in 1993.

1994 Brentson Buckner saw action at DT/DE and took over full time when Gerald Williams got hurt. Jason Gildon inherited the rush end role Chad Brown had in 1993 because Brown was a starting ILB in 1994.

It's not even close. Not only does LeBeau not play his rookies, he and DL coach John Mitchell actually COACH their DL's to be something they weren't in college, thus negating the reasons we drafted them in the first place.

Been saying the same for three years, but it will fall on deaf ears. LeBeau does no wrong.

[Slapstick]

Absolutely.

Opportunities my ass. Like my examples above show, it's the mindset of the coaches who run the system.

This defense is allegedly so hard to know that Darren Perry was a starter the MINUTE we drafted him.

Capers coaches, LeBeau doesn't.

Then, your original argument about letting Lewis leave no longer makes sense...

[steelz09]

I'm not sure why the debate is between Allen and Lewis. To me, that is a moot point.

The debate SHOULD be, why in the hell do you keep Ike Taylor and pay him 9.4 million? I've heard the argument that the Steelers feel that Ike + Allen > Allen + Lewis. That is incredibly short sighted from an organization standpoint. Ike MIGHT have 1 year left in the tank. There is no way, no how, Ike Taylor is worth over 9 million in the prime of his career let alone towards the end of it.

I've heard arguments that Lewis doesn't create turnovers... I have to laugh about that. He started for 1 year and played very Taylor-like but he plays the ball better than Ike ever has. Allen might be better at creating turnovers but again, that's not the comparison. The comparison should be the younger, affordable Lewis vs. the old and overpaid Ike Taylor.

The Steelers would have come close to breaking even with the Ike Cut + the Lewis signing due to dead money. Add to that, you save close to 10.5 MILLION DOLLARS next year because Ike isn't on the books.

[Siggy00]

Then, your original argument about letting Lewis leave no longer makes sense...

Sure it does. Makes perfect sense.

Don't be a blind sheep. Aren't you tired of seeing defensive players earn rookie contracts while doing nothing for years?

[Slapstick]

Sure it does. Makes perfect sense.

Don't be a blind sheep. Aren't you tired of seeing defensive players earn rookie contracts while doing nothing for years?

Go back and read what you posted. Your argument makes no sense.

I may be a blind sheep, but I am at least literate...

[Siggy00]

Sure you are. The 2009 Cleveland game proved that.

Guys like you got what you wanted, the evil BA was fired and the HOF QB was shown who is boss.

8-8.

Hope you enjoyed it.

[Eich]

Sure you are. The 2009 Cleveland game proved that.

Guys like you got what you wanted, the evil BA was fired and the HOF QB was shown who is boss.

8-8.

Hope you enjoyed it.

Nice to see that you enjoy gloating about going 8-8. Forget that Ben was having a CAREER year before he and the vast majority of the team went down with INJURIES. Yeah - ignore that point, cause it doesn't fit your ridiculous - everyone hates Ben - agenda.

Yea - getting rid of BA and asking Ben to tweak his game so he doesn't get killed is the reason we went 8-8. Your response to a ridiculous post like that would be, "Do you even watch the games?".

[Siggy00]

And what happened anyway? The golf coach used the same slow, plodding play of having Miller in the backfield (just like Arians used to) on a 3rd down pass and Ben got crunched anyway.

The same stupid formation he called prior to Suisham's miss in Tennessee that almost got Ben killed. Ben escaped that one, he couldn't escape Hali.

Ben was better in 2007. He was arguably better in 2009.

Trying to live on 3rd down all year set Ben up to get crunched.

But hey, at least the golf coach has a fullback on the field.

Yay.

Not gloating at all. But until this organization realizes that someone being from Pittsburgh isn't an automatic cure all? Expect more of the same.

[ikestops85]

Who said anything about starting? LeBeau's rookies don't see the field hardly at all.

Kirkland saw spot duty in 1992, hell he played DEFENSIVE LINE in Cowher's first game.

1993 Chad Brown was a rush end specialist, Deon Figures was the nickel back. Willie Williams also saw time on the field in 1993.

1994 Brentson Buckner saw action at DT/DE and took over full time when Gerald Williams got hurt. Jason Gildon inherited the rush end role Chad Brown had in 1993 because Brown was a starting ILB in 1994.

It's not even close. Not only does LeBeau not play his rookies, he and DL coach John Mitchell actually COACH their DL's to be something they weren't in college, thus negating the reasons we drafted them in the first place.

Well then two can play this game. Woodley saw time as a pass rushing specialist, Hood saw the field, Mclendon saw the field, Heyward saw the field, Gay saw the field, Cortez Allen saw the field. Hell, even Ryan Mundy started games in his second year.

and Chad Brown was a RILB up until 1996 when Lloyd got hurt and Olsavsky took Brown's position and Brown moved into Lloyd's position at ROLB.

and if Williams doesn't get injured Buckner never sees the field. No difference.

[Siggy00]

Buckner was on the field WITH Williams. He was playing duty at DE and NT. When Gerald got hurt he moved to NT full time.