5 reasons why losing K Lewis is not a bad thing.

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  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #16
    Originally posted by Shawn
    Lewis played at least as well as Taylor last season. Taylor for the for the first time in his career looked a step slower, got burnt, and looked very average at times. If and that is a big if, Taylor is still better than Lewis...the next question is for how much longer?
    I agree that keeping the developed talent and letting Ike walk would have been the preferred avenue; actually, the preferred avenue (but, not fiscally possible) would have been to keep Ike, Lewis and Allen. However, I have to disagree with the assessment of Taylor. He played poorly early in the season, but around the 5th game or so he was back to his old self until he was injured. No one was getting behind any of our Cbs on a consistent basis and the defense was playing well even without a superior pass rush, so, the corners were doing their jobs very well.

    Ike is a workout warrior and I have no doubt he'll arrive in camp ready to go when it all gets started again.

    Pappy
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    • Siggy00
      Backup
      • Mar 2013
      • 452

      #17
      If Lewis isn't as good as Allen why was Lewis starting over him?

      He they made a mistake, or LeBeau is senile.

      Take your pick.

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      • Siggy00
        Backup
        • Mar 2013
        • 452

        #18
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Gay was not brought back to start opposite Taylor. He will play the slot which he has been good at doing. Lewis is the new starter opposite Taylor
        Oh for Christ's sake.

        You can't be this stupid, right?

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #19
          Originally posted by Siggy00
          If Lewis isn't as good as Allen why was Lewis starting over him?

          He they made a mistake, or LeBeau is senile.

          Take your pick.
          Allen is not as good as Lewis right now, or he would have been starting. I do think he has more upside and is cheaper. Given the option to keep one, I keep Allen. With that said, at this point in Taylors career, he is the least valuable of the three.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #20
            Originally posted by Siggy00
            The Steelers could trade Ben, Pouncey, Troy, and Timmons and Slap here would agree with it.
            Yep. Good observation, Crash.

            Very typical of the quality of your observations...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • Slapstick
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 0

              #21
              Originally posted by Siggy00
              If Lewis isn't as good as Allen why was Lewis starting over him?
              Perhaps the same reason Lewis wasn't able to beat out Willie Gay?
              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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              • SS Laser
                Pro Bowler
                • Apr 2009
                • 1929

                #22
                Originally posted by Siggy00
                If Lewis isn't as good as Allen why was Lewis starting over him?

                He they made a mistake, or LeBeau is senile.

                Take your pick.
                I have mentioned this before. Coming out of camp Lewis was seen as better then Allen. After some play by Allen and then being the #? after Ike went down he was seen as better then Lewis.

                Now will Allen continue to be better then Lewis? I hope so. I wish the Steelers would have signed Lewis. But we all will have to see how it works out. I think somewhere in the draft there is a CB the steelers want.

                Neither Mcfadden or Gay worked out well ENOUGH for the cards as far as I can tell looking at there stats, after they left the Steelers. Mcfadden did ok for 2010 coming back to the Steelers. Not much in 2011 looking at the stats. Hope Gay works out well. Maybe Gay is a great fit in the Lebeau system? But would have figured Horton's system would have been close enough. How did Gay play for the Cards on tape? His stats look about the same as with the steelers. How will Lewis do? We will see.

                At this point it is like the draft. Need a season or a few to see how the players work out.
                Last edited by SS Laser; 03-18-2013, 05:17 PM.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Develop a young talent, then let him go.
                  That is the by product of the "LeBeau Way"---sit and watch for 2-3 years and play for one. The difference this year is our cap situation is so bad that we have no ability to keep our one year starter. If we had Lewis playing earlier maybe we would have had the info to get another player in or determine whether he was a long term solution.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • phillyesq
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 7568

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    That is the by product of the "LeBeau Way"---sit and watch for 2-3 years and play for one. The difference this year is our cap situation is so bad that we have no ability to keep our one year starter. If we had Lewis playing earlier maybe we would have had the info to get another player in or determine whether he was a long term solution.
                    Allen has logged significant playing time since he was a rookie, despite the fact that he was considered very raw when drafted. Lewis was given an opportunity early, but he failed to capitalize. He had the horrific game with Denver where he had the temper tantrum and he was unable to beat out Gay. Some players develop more quickly than others.

                    Besides, as you were saying in the Harrison thread, perhaps the Steelers know what they have in these guys when they make decisions.

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                    • ikestops85
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3724

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      That is the by product of the "LeBeau Way"---sit and watch for 2-3 years and play for one. The difference this year is our cap situation is so bad that we have no ability to keep our one year starter. If we had Lewis playing earlier maybe we would have had the info to get another player in or determine whether he was a long term solution.
                      So you are saying we should have been starting Brown? Really? Let's just put rookies on the field just because they are rookies. That would be the "Oviedo Way". I don't think that would be very successful.
                      As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                      but Go Steelers!!!

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                      • Siggy00
                        Backup
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 452

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        Perhaps the same reason Lewis wasn't able to beat out Willie Gay?
                        Or maybe Dick LeBeau, as is his trademark, won't play a younger player over his prized veterans.

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                        • Siggy00
                          Backup
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 452

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ikestops85
                          So you are saying we should have been starting Brown? Really? Let's just put rookies on the field just because they are rookies. That would be the "Oviedo Way". I don't think that would be very successful.
                          Worked for Dom Capers in Pittsburgh.

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                          • winwithd
                            Starter
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 895

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Slapstick
                            We have a season or two to worry about it... It's not that big of a deal...
                            By then Lake will have Van Dyke ready to go.

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                            • SidSmythe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4708

                              #29
                              Keenan Lewis exceeded every expectation I had for him after watching him his 1st two seasons.

                              BUT the guy isn't "Special" by any means ... the guy is replaceable.
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
                              Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Siggy00
                                Or maybe Dick LeBeau, as is his trademark, won't play a younger player over his prized veterans.
                                That being the case, then you have answered your own question about why Lewis started over Cortez Allen....
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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