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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3937

    #46
    Originally posted by phillyesq
    Here is the CBA:

    [URL]http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf[/URL]

    As Slapstick pointed out, on page 40 of the CBA (55th page of the PDF) that there can be no poison pill based on, for example, games played in a certain state.

    However, and I haven't looked through the rest, it does not appear that there is a restriction in terms of how the contract is structured. There may be something else in there, but I don't have the time to review right now...
    Thanks! I assume you could see what I am talking about. I believe there was a restriction introduced (Not sure if it was part of the approved) about the structure. Also had to do with guranteed money too. A team could offer a 5 year 30 mil contract for offer sheet. Structure it that year 1 base doubled the contract avg. Year 1 cap hit ends up being 12 mil. The tender team can match the 5 year 30 mil but doesn't have 12 mil space for year 1.

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    • Starlifter
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5078

      #47
      sanders dropped a lot of balls last year, particularly after being hit. The steelers have always been smart with their money. if they see a future with a player, they never let it get to the point where they can test the market. that's why we all knew wallace was gone beginning of last year.
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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #48
        Kaboly has always been a moron...

        "It's unlikely the Patriots would be willing give up a draft pick for Sanders because they have only five picks this year."

        Obviously, the Pats would be willing to do it if they invited him to New England. It not like New England doesn't know about his RFA status and what they'd have to give up in order to get him.
        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 35649

          #49
          Originally posted by steelz09
          Kaboly has always been a moron...

          "It's unlikely the Patriots would be willing give up a draft pick for Sanders because they have only five picks this year."

          Obviously, the Pats would be willing to do it if they invited him to New England. It not like New England doesn't know about his RFA status and what they'd have to give up in order to get him.
          the Patriots* are also bringing in Dwight Freeney, John Abraham and Adrian Wilson for visits, looks like they are just doing their due diligence on the free agents that are out there.

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          • Siggy00
            Backup
            • Mar 2013
            • 452

            #50
            Did you just talk to yourself?

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            • steelz09
              Administrator
              • Jan 2008
              • 4675

              #51
              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
              the Patriots* are also bringing in Dwight Freeney, John Abraham and Adrian Wilson for visits, looks like they are just doing their due diligence on the free agents that are out there.
              I think you missed my point. It's not a knock on the Patriots. It's a dumb comment by Kaboly. If the Pats were not considering giving up a 3rd rounder for him, he wouldn't be in New England right now.
              They wouldn't waste their time. It might not "happen" but to say it's unlikely is not accurate.

              It would be equivalent to Chris Ivory visiting the Steelers right now. Ivory has a 2nd round tender. Why would the Steelers waste their time if they weren't remotely interesting in giving up that pick. Obviously, the Pats are interested to a degree regardless of the 3rd round pick.
              Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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              • lloydroid
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2012
                • 2026

                #52
                Originally posted by steelz09
                Kaboly has always been a moron...

                "It's unlikely the Patriots would be willing give up a draft pick for Sanders because they have only five picks this year."

                Obviously, the Pats would be willing to do it if they invited him to New England. It not like New England doesn't know about his RFA status and what they'd have to give up in order to get him.
                I thought the same thing: Why have him come in for a visit if they wouldn't be willing to give up the draft pick? That makes a lot of sense. NOT.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #53
                  Originally posted by lloydroid
                  I thought the same thing: Why have him come in for a visit if they wouldn't be willing to give up the draft pick? That makes a lot of sense. NOT.
                  it's possible the Pats* are just doing their due diligence and familiarizing themselves with Sanders for when he possibly becomes an UFA next season.

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                  • supersteeler
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1089

                    #54
                    [QUOTE=supersteeler;554278]A couple of things here:

                    1. They signed WR Danny Amendola

                    2. Just signed Donald Jones WR Buffalo

                    3. Sanders has a starting role lined up here, in NE he wouldn't be guaranteed to start.


                    4. With him starting he has more chances of getting a bigger contract down the road as his receiving numbers should be much higher with starting.


                    5. I don't know if NE will go overboard to sign him.



                    I forgot to add...... Pats, Brandon Lloyd working on deal
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                    • squidkid
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 5847

                      #55
                      i'd be thrilled with a 3rd rounder.
                      wrs are a dime a dozen for the all, except the truly elite. although a draft pick would have to be used to grab a wr within the first 3 rounds, sanders would be easily replaced
                      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #56
                        [QUOTE=supersteeler;554325]
                        Originally posted by supersteeler
                        A couple of things here:

                        1. They signed WR Danny Amendola

                        2. Just signed Donald Jones WR Buffalo

                        3. Sanders has a starting role lined up here, in NE he wouldn't be guaranteed to start.


                        4. With him starting he has more chances of getting a bigger contract down the road as his receiving numbers should be much higher with starting.


                        5. I don't know if NE will go overboard to sign him.



                        I forgot to add...... Pats, Brandon Lloyd working on deal
                        Lloyd has a significant bonus (I think $3 million) due pretty soon. Sanders could be brought in to leverage Lloyd, or he could be an alternative that they are weighing.

                        There is an almost eerie similarity between his numbers and Welkers over the first three years of their careers, and they do have similar styles. I wouldn't rule it out...

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                        • SidSmythe
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4708

                          #57
                          That would give the Pats TWO new WRs that would see the field half the season at best.
                          I like Sanders but not sure about his durability
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                          • supersteeler
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1089

                            #58
                            Just heard the Patriots presented an offer sheet for Sanders...lets see what happens.

                            Not sure if this is accurate, by doing that they would have to notify the steelers FO immediately, no word yet if antthing happened.
                            Last edited by supersteeler; 03-15-2013, 08:12 PM.
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                            • thor75
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1038

                              #59
                              If he goes to the Patsy's, this will really change the direction of the draft for the premium picks. Before I would have been excited with CB or TE at 1:17. If Sanders leaves, that really leaves a hole at WR.
                              1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
                              2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
                              3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
                              4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
                              5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
                              5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
                              6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
                              6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
                              7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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                              • supersteeler
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 1089

                                #60
                                Maybe I'm a loner here but I hope we keep Emmanuel, a third round pick with no experience isn't worth it.
                                As I stated before with Sanders being the #2 guy now I think we'll see better results if he can stay healthy, plus we spent time developing him. Would hate to see that investment thrown away and weaken our offense even more.
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