Give a choice, I'd take Russell Wilson over Ben right now.

[lloydroid]

Wow. Some threads make it hard to say "Hey, check out planetsteelers.com for good Steeler talk."

This is one of them. Just embarrassing, knee-jerk, over reaction to an injury. Unbelievable.

In order to assess players and teams compared to each other, you must watch the other teams and players and apply vision. Apparently, you have not done this.

[lloydroid]

You're making a fool of yourself on this board. If that is your goal then kudos to you for reaching it.

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[NorthCoast]

LOL... Russell Wilson is who Ben used to be when Ben was a rookie. I would love to have the hot hand right now but who knows how they are going to play next year or 2 or 3 years down the road. Ben used to scoot for 1st downs and keep the D honest with his feet.

I complain...I'm still mad.... but you... you sound like you don't even like this team.

This.

Let's see how RW does with a few hits on that body of his. Look how ordinary RGIII was after his injury. The NFL has a way of making QBs pay for being an NFL QB... only the strong shall survive. Let's see where RW is after a few years into this.

[supersteeler]

Kapernick has an O-line thats putting 3 starters in the PRO BOWL, thats a big difference AND the 49ers have a run game to help him out as well.

[DukieBoy]

Feeding the Attention Jones, boys.

21 of 50 posts on this thread from one source.

[Chucktownsteeler]

On paper, the 49ers maybe the best team in the league. Ben has a cobbled together offensive line and 3 or 4 running backs that have no business being in the NFL. In fact, one just got cut. Factor in his receivers couldn't catch a cold this year.

[Steelhere10]

The man stated what he thought and you can't knock him for that, but when you put Matt R. over Ben you lost me on that.. He is another big time choker in the makings with better protection ,wr's and te.

[lloydroid]

The man stated what he thought and you can't knock him for that, but when you put Matt R. over Ben you lost me on that.. He is another big time choker in the makings with better protection ,wr's and te.

You might be right. I think this season might tell us which way the evaluation of Matt Ice will go. If he beats SF, then you have to lift the choker label off him. Matter of fact, finding a way to win this last game vs. Seattle was huge in my book. Seattle was the hottest team in the NFL, took a very late lead, but Matty Ice still found a way to win.

[lloydroid]

There's a difference between being witty & clever, and being a loudmouth punk.

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[lloydroid]

So you got that? Excellent. Got the messege across.

Yes, glad you can admit to it, although your breaking of board rules is going to have a negative impact on you.

[7 UP]

The comparison was in the throwing motion. You included the added extras. There's a difference between being witty & clever, and being a loudmouth punk. When you realise the difference, get back to us.

Thank you Chadman. Im glad someone read my comment. I never said anything about mobility. CK has a long Leftwichesc delivery and IMO it will hinder his career the same way it did Leftwich. Comparison stops there.

[Steelhere10]

You might be right. I think this season might tell us which way the evaluation of Matt Ice will go. If he beats SF, then you have to lift the choker label off him. Matter of fact, finding a way to win this last game vs. Seattle was huge in my book. Seattle was the hottest team in the NFL, took a very late lead, but Matty Ice still found a way to win.

Do you realize that was Matt first win and first 200 yd gm in the playoffs. Even if he beat SF i bet it wont have anything to do with his performance.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

You can fully expect a warning or suspension, as you clearly are breaking board rules.

My comment did none of what it says are against the rules.

[lloydroid]

Thank you Chadman. Im glad someone read my comment. I never said anything about mobility. CK has a long Leftwichesc delivery and IMO it will hinder his career the same way it did Leftwich. Comparison stops there.

No, it doesn't stop there. You said, "We will see how that works out for him" implying he will be as inferior as a QB as BL was. You _DO_ know you implied that, right? Now, the reason why this is faulty logic is because CK uses his legs to put himself in position to find open targets; as he scrambles around he creates large, open windows, where, even with a long wind up, can easily be thrown to. BL, and his cinder block feet, can't create those large, open windows, hence his long wind up is more of a problem. Ever play even back yard football? What happens when a QB creates a play that goes for more than a few seconds? That's right: It's impossible to keep the WRs covered. That is what the PACKAGE skill set of CK causes. Hence, your comparison is faulty.

[lloydroid]

My comment did none of what it says are against the rules.

When you call someone a "fool" is that a case of name calling? Is it against board rules to call other posters names? Yes and yet.

You're making a fool of yourself on this board.

Read the above. You wrote that. You are clearing immersed in calling others names. It is against the board rules.