Give a choice, I'd take Russell Wilson over Ben right now.

[lloydroid]

Did you see this guy battle back vs. Atl? Dear WORD, this kid is good. He is a better QB, right NOW, then is Bonehead Ben. He can buy time in the pocket, and out side of it, BETTER than BB, plus makes better decisions on where to go with the ball. I give Pete Carrol kudos for having the stones, and the wisdom, to go with this rookie instead of their high priced QB free agent vet. Seattle still lost, but this guy brought them back on a furious pace. Ben gets so much credit for keeping a play alive, but takes a pounding in doing so and makes some real bonehead decisions with careless decisions. This guy is already superior in buying time, creating plays and the accuracy on his throws. I know most of us like to consider BB an elite QB, but this new crop of QBs is quickly leaving BB in the rear view mirror as a possible top 5 QB. As a matter of fact, if given the choice, I would choose all of these QBs BEFORE BB if I had an NFL team.

Brady
Rogers
Matt Ryan
Peyton Manning - although age is a concern
Colin Rand Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Luck
RG3 - although knee injury a concern
Brees

And I would add in Cam Newton if he bounces back from a sophomore slump, which I think he will.

That puts BB out of the top 10 in my mind - just out of it, but out of it nonetheless.

Sorry but Russell Wilson is the real deal. And so is Kaepernick, with his wicked athletic ability paired with a cannon of an arm. These guys are the new big time QBs in the NFL; BB no longer is the current big time QB. Those days are already gone. Oh, and Brady is as deadly as ever. Amazing how he and the Pats contend every year - just amazing.

[legend of polamalu]

People forget really easy that Ben was having an MVP year before he got injured...
How long have yu been a fan? Cause I remember the comebacks that Ben has made and will never forget them...I will also remember the several yet to come by BB.

Ben is not our problem people!

[7 UP]

Cmon man, get a grip on reality

[lloydroid]

People forget really easy that Ben was having an MVP year before he got injured...
How long have yu been a fan? Cause I remember the comebacks that Ben has made and will never forget them...I will also remember the several yet to come by BB.

Ben is not our problem people!

Yea, BB used to make come backs all the time. How has he been lately? The last Super Bowl? This season?
Not happening anymore. BB used to be clutch; now coming down the stretch of the most important games,
he just isn't getting it done. We needed him vs. Dallas or Cinci to make the post season, and with two
opportunities to win both games, he came up empty, big time.

[lloydroid]

Cmon man, get a grip on reality

Offer specifics and make an argument. What is not in accordance with reality? Which of those QBs are not superior to BB at this point?

[feltdizz]

LOL... Russell Wilson is who Ben used to be when Ben was a rookie. I would love to have the hot hand right now but who knows how they are going to play next year or 2 or 3 years down the road. Ben used to scoot for 1st downs and keep the D honest with his feet.

I complain...I'm still mad.... but you... you sound like you don't even like this team.

[7 UP]

Wilson has one full season under his belt and Kaepernick has even less than that. Those two guys could have Hall of Fame careers or be benched halfway through next year, and anywhere in between. Remember when Vince Young had his one good year in this league? Led the Titans to the playoffs right? How did that end up for him?

To mention any of these guys names in the same sentence with Ben at this point in their careers is ridiculous. Lets let these flavor of the year QBs get a few years under their belt before we give them a gold jacket.

[Sugar]

You would take Russell Wilson? Good for you, he's a heck of a player. Are you looking to trade for him or something? Aside from looking for an opportunity to slam Ben, do you have a point?

[legend of polamalu]

You know Russell Wilson is exactly where Ben is right---On his couch. Differnce is Ben is polishing his rings!

[feltdizz]

I think Loid is just admiring Wilson's play... but just threw Ben in it so it would stay on the board.

[lloydroid]

LOL... Russell Wilson is who Ben used to be when Ben was a rookie. I would love to have the hot hand right now but who knows how they are going to play next year or 2 or 3 years down the road. Ben used to scoot for 1st downs and keep the D honest with his feet.

I complain...I'm still mad.... but you... you sound like you don't even like this team.

Yea, you're right: I don't like ___THIS___ team, because I am a Steelers fan and this current version of the team I love is a disgrace, so why would I like a team that I support that is a disgrace? They lack discipline, focus and effort. I despise when my favorite team has those qualities. So, yup, I don't like it in the condition it is. If I had a son who was a criminal I would love my son, but not the current state of that son.

[lloydroid]

I think Loid is just admiring Wilson's play... but just threw Ben in it so it would stay on the board.

As I admire another team/player, I cannot help but to compare and contrast said player/team to the Steelers. It's only natural. People do it on this board daily. That Wilson dude is a stone cold killer. And he is far less sloppy then BB, he is focused and sharp, as opposed to Bonehead Ben, who is lackadaisical and careless.

[lloydroid]

You would take Russell Wilson? Good for you, he's a heck of a player. Are you looking to trade for him or something? Aside from looking for an opportunity to slam Ben, do you have a point?

I think my point was abundantly clear: I accurately perceived Wilson as a superior QB to what Ben is. Right now, RW is already a better player than the current version of BB - period, end of story. And who would have ever thought that would be the case of this rookie QB. I know I would have never predicted that before this season. No way. And yet, it is a reality.

[lloydroid]

You know Russell Wilson is exactly where Ben is right---On his couch. Differnce is Ben is polishing his rings!

He better keep the polish out as Wilson has a far better chance of winning rings in the next 5 years than does Ben. Look at the immediate future of the two QBs and teams: who's future looks brighter? It's not even close. Oh, and the difference is that Wilson MADE IT TO THE POST SEASON this year, how did Ben do on that front? FAIL.

[lloydroid]

Wilson has one full season under his belt and Kaepernick has even less than that. Those two guys could have Hall of Fame careers or be benched halfway through next year, and anywhere in between. Remember when Vince Young had his one good year in this league? Led the Titans to the playoffs right? How did that end up for him?

To mention any of these guys names in the same sentence with Ben at this point in their careers is ridiculous. Lets let these flavor of the year QBs get a few years under their belt before we give them a gold jacket.

VY has a flawed character. Neither of these guys show any sign of poor attitude. VY is mentally weak. Check back with me in a few years and lets re-visit where these two QBs rate. And where BB rates as well. Both CK and RW illuminate stellar focus, drive and effort. BB already thinks he's a god and god's don't need to put in all that much effort, as Ben takes his sloppy play on the field and is late game pics ruined our chance at the post season. He blew it with game-losing pics vs. Dallas and Cinci that cost us the season. But, Mr. "What me worry" just will be rolling with his unfocused, undisciplined play and the days of contention will not return until he gives a crap. He clearly doesn't really now.