Is this the year Cowher Returns To Coaching?

[Dee Dub]

I would give you that evaluation..That is fair. I'm more proactive & get agitated quicker.

Oh, and I would rather have my first two picks (Terrence Williams and Kevin Minter), than your first two (Alec Olgetree and Eric Reid).....

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Probably no worse when Noll players left Bill. If Bill couldn't win with
A good healthy Ol, Dl a hall of fame Rb loylld, Brown, Green, Kirkland, Woodson, Lake, Perry, and the wrs he had then what make you think he could win now?

Very similar situations....Cowher went to a bowl with them...then they retired/left via FA like we are seeing now. Cowher then built the team that went on to win a SB for him and another for Tomlin. Let's see if Tomlin can now build a stud team now that the vets are leaving.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Cowher was more of a "buddy" with his favorite players than Tomlin is...

Cowher inherited two Hall of Famers, Woodson and Dawson, one on each side of the ball...in addition to players like Barry Foster, Merril Hoge and Eric Green on offense...Greg Lloyd, Hardy Nickerson and Carnell Lake on defense...

Please, let's don't pretend that Cowher did not inherit any talent...

Cowher had Rod and Lloyd till around 96 or 97, so around 5 years each, but the last year or two of each of their careers in Pgh were spent injured. Sort of like Troy and Harrison. So Cowher and Tomlin took over teams with some talent, I never said they didn't. What I said is lets see if Tomlin can build the team that Cowher did.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Cowher...A buddy??? What did you watch or what did you read? Cowher was anything but someones buddy on the field. He didn't wait to approach you. He would get you coming off the field.

I didn't see you mention Cowher inheriting a SB QB. Noll's last 7 years here saw the Steelers miss the playoffs 6 out of 7 years. Cowher came in coming off of the Malone / Brister run with O'Donell coming off his 8 start 2nd year. Cowhers run had O'Donnell, Tomzak, Stewart, & Maddox before he got BB. The names Aikman, Young, Favre, Ellway, Warner, & Brady highlighted the SBs over that time. Yeah...Cowher had the talent at QB to compete with that. So Tomlin inherits a team that was in the playoffs 4 out of 6 years with a SB win, a franchise QB, and possibly double the hall of famers & Pro Bowlers...But you think Cowher came into the same talent situation? Wow. Disagree there. Did you forget Cowher took that team he inherited to the playoffs the first 6 years he was here before his first 2 losing seasons? I'm not going to compare their body of work yet but Tomlin's has to take "his core" of players back to the top before I anoint him better than Cowher. That is where he is at right now. Tomlin got to utilize BB in his prime since he came here. My expectations are higher because of that and need to be met before I give him his due acolades. The real Mike Tomlin will stand up over the next 2-3 years.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Oh, and I would rather have my first two picks (Terrence Williams and Kevin Minter), than your first two (Alec Olgetree and Eric Reid).....

I have no problem with your fist two picks. To be honest, like all the players in your mock. Just don't know what they are thinking or how the offseason pans out.

The Steelers signed Brian Rolle to a future contract. I'm starting to get the feeling the Steelers are leaning toward an ILB later, if at all, because they know the status of Spence & Foote. Spence may be a PUP canidate & Foote brought back as insurance. Rolle would be good depth & ST player. Rolle could very well find himself on the field with Timmons sliding over. Maybe Foote won't be brought back...Who knows. I'm starting to lean towards an ILB later now. Someone like Nico Johnson if he falls in the 3rd or Kiko Alonso in the 4th.

[Slapstick]

Cowher...A buddy??? What did you watch or what did you read? Cowher was anything but someones buddy on the field. He didn't wait to approach you. He would get you coming off the field.

When I see a player kiss Tomlin, I will believe that he's the players' "buddy"...

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[Steelhere10]

When I see a player kiss Tomlin, I will believe that he's the players' "buddy"...

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Or cater to Kordell after benching him. Besides it was Cowhers fault that he decided to stick with Stewart and didn't Even want Ben.

[supersteeler]

I didn't intend for this thread to be about Cowher vs Tomlin, only that Cowher is getting ansy and might want to re-enter the NFL as a coach.
As I stated the speculation is there every year about Bill, what he will do is up in the air as it always is until he says one way or another what his intentions are.

From what I'm gathering, Bill is content with his current gig, but at the same time the rumor is he wants a new challenge. He got the chance to spend time with his kids, so whats left but what he knows. If he does return to coaching I wish him well, no matter where he goes or what he does he's still a pittsburgh guy.

He did well in his life, not bad for a guy from Crafton!

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

When I see a player kiss Tomlin, I will believe that he's the players' "buddy"...

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That's what you theory is based on???? Incredible! Now I see what I'm dealing with.

[Slapstick]

That's what you theory is based on???? Incredible! Now I see what I'm dealing with.

Just an example, JPN...

By the way, what exactly is YOUR theory based on? Hmmm?

[Crash]

Cowher wasn't a hard ass with players. He was a hard ass towards media and officials.

Remember what Bettis said when Plax left? Coughlin was going to be different for him because Cowher never ran that tight of a ship.

[Steelhere10]

Cowher wasn't a hard ass with players. He was a hard ass towards media and officials.

Remember what Bettis said when Plax left? Coughlin was going to be different for him because Cowher never ran that tight of a ship.

So true...

[flippy]

We need a new ST coach. Let's bring back Cowher.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Just an example, JPN...

By the way, what exactly is YOUR theory based on? Hmmm?

I'm still waiting for his team to "not go gentle" & "unleash hell".

Players are an extension of their coaches. Late game collapses & not winning the games you should are the footprints of a mentally soft team. Talking about getting it corrected isn't the same as doing it. He lacks discipline among his players which is evident by the lack of their attention to detail. They are professionals. Don't be afraid to hurt their ego and not challenge them. Tomlin is what dictates the balance between team chemistry & accountabilty. I believe he is more of a "players coach" than someone who can coach a player. It is only getting more difficult as this team gets younger. Not everyone is self sufficient...Most Vets are. The young guys need direction and it is lacking. Tomlin can get this going in the right direction but I believe he needs to expect more out of his young players and make it known to them. I don't think he challanges his players enough. There is a difference between trying to motivate them with words & pushing them to get better. Tomlin seems like he rather pat them on the back when they are winning rather than kick them in the A$$ & tell them they need to get better.

That is my opinion. I could be wrong...And to be honest I hope I am so they get it turned around. Until I see the youth core respond the way they should...I have my doubts.

[Crash]

The LeBeau defense was blowing 4th quarter leads long before Tomlin got here.