Is this the year Cowher Returns To Coaching?

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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #16
    Originally posted by Sugar
    I hope the best for Bill. It was a sad day when he left. That said, I don't want him back. Ever.

    Tomlin is the right man for the job in Pittsburgh. Unless he just completely falls apart, he should be the coach here as long as he wants to be.

    $$$$$$ Would agree with every letter, syllable and word you typed.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3937

      #17
      Originally posted by Steelhere10
      I saw nothing any different when Bill was coaching with Porter, Flowers etc I think you are seeing what you want to see.
      Tomlin inherited a mental tough veteran team. As the veterans come to the end of their careers & the youth sit at the table...You can see the difference. Porter & Flower's antics was not a reflection of the coaching...Their discipline & accountabilty was. You can talk the talk on the field...There is nothing wrong with confidence. Cowher was not afraid to get in the face of Porter, Flowers, & even LLoyd...He drew the line on player-coach relationship as a professional. Tomlin better learn quick the difference because the influx of youth over the last couple years & going forward will require him to be a coach...Not a buddy. I'm seeing what is going on...Not what I don't want to see. I am a fan or Tomlin & Cowher...But if Tomlin can't do his job...I won't be. Tomlin will be challanged over the next couple years as a coach. He didn't respond well in 2012.
      Last edited by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY; 01-09-2013, 10:47 AM.

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      • SidSmythe
        Hall of Famer
        • Sep 2008
        • 4708

        #18
        If I were a GM, i'd be looking for the next 33 year old Bill Cowher, not the OLD one who's not as hungry anymore.
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
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        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3937

          #19
          Originally posted by Sugar
          I hope the best for Bill. It was a sad day when he left. That said, I don't want him back. Ever.

          Tomlin is the right man for the job in Pittsburgh. Unless he just completely falls apart, he should be the coach here as long as he wants to be.
          I agree. "Completely falls apart" would start to fit that description if the Steelers don't make the playoffs in 2013.

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          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3937

            #20
            Originally posted by SidSmythe
            If I were a GM, i'd be looking for the next 33 year old Bill Cowher, not the OLD one who's not as hungry anymore.
            They did in Tomlin. Hopefully that book has a great ending. But if it doesn't....

            Do you think calling Cowher an OLD coach who isn't hungry anymore an accurate statement?

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            • Mister Pittsburgh
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 3674

              #21
              Originally posted by Steelhere10
              I guess 1SB win in 15 years will resurrect the franchise, I don't know which statement is funnier....
              The farther we get from a core of Cowher era/drafted players the worse we are. Lets see how we do when Casey-Keisel-Harrison-Troy-Ike-Foote are gone.
              @_Hellgrammite

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              • Steelhere10
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3849

                #22
                Spitting in the face of players and dealing with over confident players won him how many SB, and championship home losses again?
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                • Steelhere10
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3849

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                  The farther we get from a core of Cowher era/drafted players the worse we are. Lets see how we do when Casey-Keisel-Harrison-Troy-Ike-Foote are gone.
                  Probably no worse when Noll players left Bill. If Bill couldn't win with
                  A good healthy Ol, Dl a hall of fame Rb loylld, Brown, Green, Kirkland, Woodson, Lake, Perry, and the wrs he had then what make you think he could win now?
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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    I agree. "Completely falls apart" would start to fit that description if the Steelers don't make the playoffs in 2013.
                    No. I'm thinking losing seasons for two consecutive years after this years even season. If some rebuilding does need to happen, you want to have a steady hand through it and not keep changing coaches like losing organizations do.

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                    • Mister Pittsburgh
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3674

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sugar
                      No. I'm thinking losing seasons for two consecutive years after this years even season. If some rebuilding does need to happen, you want to have a steady hand through it and not keep changing coaches like losing organizations do.
                      Stability doesn't offer much if the player evaluation during the rebuilding isn't there.
                      @_Hellgrammite

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Steelhere10
                        Spitting in the face of players and dealing with over confident players won him how many SB, and championship home losses again?
                        And you think Tomlins 2 SB appearances have NOTHING to do with Cowhers's players and what he developed in them as professionals? Cowher got a QB in 2004 and made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years with him and won a SB. Tomlin inherits that team has a SB win & a loss. I'm not taking anything away from Tomlin but he had some help before he got there. Tomlin also missed the playoffs 2 out of his 6 years here and has 2 "one & done" in the playoffs. Tomlin's fingerprints on this team come to the surface as more & more vets depart. He has some coaching up to do.

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                        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3937

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steelhere10
                          Probably no worse when Noll players left Bill. If Bill couldn't win with
                          A good healthy Ol, Dl a hall of fame Rb loylld, Brown, Green, Kirkland, Woodson, Lake, Perry, and the wrs he had then what make you think he could win now?
                          Steelers woes over that time had nothing to do with defense. It was always about the offense and the inability to win if they got behind & I'm sure you remember that. The time they made runs is when Neil & Tommy where here & gave them any sense of a passing offense to go along with that D pre dating BB. Cowher got a QB in 2004 and went to the playoffs 2 out of 3 years with BB a won a SB. If Cowher didn't retire...Would you expect something less than what Tomlin did? I would guess you could at very least put Tomlin's season's at the end of Cowher's if he stayed. The core was his players.

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3937

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Sugar
                            No. I'm thinking losing seasons for two consecutive years after this years even season. If some rebuilding does need to happen, you want to have a steady hand through it and not keep changing coaches like losing organizations do.
                            I would give you that evaluation..That is fair. I'm more proactive & get agitated quicker.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #29
                              Cowher was more of a "buddy" with his favorite players than Tomlin is...

                              Cowher inherited two Hall of Famers, Woodson and Dawson, one on each side of the ball...in addition to players like Barry Foster, Merril Hoge and Eric Green on offense...Greg Lloyd, Hardy Nickerson and Carnell Lake on defense...

                              Please, let's don't pretend that Cowher did not inherit any talent...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • Dee Dub
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4652

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                                Wait until 2014 Cowher. If Tomlin misses the playoffs again...Fire Tomlin & bring back Cowher.
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                                1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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