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[BigRob]

No body said anything about clogging up the middle for him. I said he plays in front of him. Having the best defensive player in this draft playing outside LB off the edge for any ILB is a plus.

Different roles and different responsibilities. Notre Dame has plenty of good players on D.

Wanna put a wager on whether Te'o goes in the first 10 picks? Just a friendly wager for one of us to eat crow in a few months.

[hawaiiansteel]

Walterfootball is a very knowledgeable and reputable draft site:

1(17) Pittsburgh Steelers: Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

I think this is a good spot for Manti Te'o. He was brutal in the national championship, but that shouldn't erase all of his other great tape. He's still the favorite to be the first inside linebacker off the board, and the 16-25 range seems right for him. Besides, this is the type of move the Steelers normally make. They often are able to snag talented prospects who fall to them later in the first round for whatever reason.

The Steelers have shown interest in first-round inside linebackers. They wanted Dont'a Hightower last April, but David DeCastro was just too good to pass up at No. 24 overall. Pittsburgh still has to find an inside linebacker because Larry Foote was awful this year. He finished near the top of dubious rankings like missed tackles and touchdowns allowed by players at his position.

Pick change; previously Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB LSU

[URL]http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php[/URL]

[feltdizz]

This cracks me up Felt. I thought you said you watch a lot of Notre Dame football? Well if you have then you would know Te'o was used much differently the three previous years to this. Te'o played a lot more down hill prior to this year. Coming forward. This year he was used a lot more in pass coverage. You notice a decline in tackles, TFL's, sacks, etc. But this year more INT's and PD's than previous years. His cover skills are not great by any means but he did improve enough for them to use him differently this year. Two years ago he had 128 tackles, 13.5 TFL's, 5 sacks, 0 INT's, and 2 PD's. But this past season he had less tackles, less TFL's (more than half as many), and only 1.5 sacks. Yet he had 7 INT's and 11 PD's.


Now having said that, like I have been saying all along, if he were drafted to play ILB for the Steelers, playing next to Timmons, I would hope the Steelers would utilize him more for his strength..coming forward. Timmons would no doubt get the bulk of the coverage assignments of the too. And rightfully so, he is better at it.

Te'o had 7 picks because the DL was getting a ton of pressure this year.... The difference between the DL this year vs the the last 3 is huge.

I heard they are calling Te'o "The Hawaiian Brian Boz"

[feltdizz]

Walterfootball is a very knowledgeable and reputable draft site:

1(17) Pittsburgh Steelers: Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

I think this is a good spot for Manti Te'o. He was brutal in the national championship, but that shouldn't erase all of his other great tape. He's still the favorite to be the first inside linebacker off the board, and the 16-25 range seems right for him. Besides, this is the type of move the Steelers normally make. They often are able to snag talented prospects who fall to them later in the first round for whatever reason.

The Steelers have shown interest in first-round inside linebackers. They wanted Dont'a Hightower last April, but David DeCastro was just too good to pass up at No. 24 overall. Pittsburgh still has to find an inside linebacker because Larry Foote was awful this year. He finished near the top of dubious rankings like missed tackles and touchdowns allowed by players at his position.

Pick change; previously Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB LSU

[URL]http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php[/URL]

Foote wasn't awful....

[hawaiiansteel]

Foote wasn't awful....

I agree, I didn't think Larry Foote was awful this past season either. nevertheless, Foote did finish near the top of dubious rankings like missed tackles and touchdowns allowed by players at his position.

[Dee Dub]

Wanna put a wager on whether Te'o goes in the first 10 picks? Just a friendly wager for one of us to eat crow in a few months.

Why would I do that? I have never said he would go in the top 10. All along I've said that there was a good possibility that the Steelers would have a chance to draft him even if it was as high as 11. And there were many who said we had no chance. Remember? I have said I wouldn't have a problem drafting him top 10 if I were a team that needed a LB. See the difference?

[Dee Dub]

Walterfootball is a very knowledgeable and reputable draft site:

1(17) Pittsburgh Steelers: Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame

I think this is a good spot for Manti Te'o. He was brutal in the national championship, but that shouldn't erase all of his other great tape. He's still the favorite to be the first inside linebacker off the board, and the 16-25 range seems right for him. Besides, this is the type of move the Steelers normally make. They often are able to snag talented prospects who fall to them later in the first round for whatever reason.

The Steelers have shown interest in first-round inside linebackers. They wanted Dont'a Hightower last April, but David DeCastro was just too good to pass up at No. 24 overall. Pittsburgh still has to find an inside linebacker because Larry Foote was awful this year. He finished near the top of dubious rankings like missed tackles and touchdowns allowed by players at his position.

Pick change; previously Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB LSU

[URL]http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php[/URL]

I have been saying this about Larry Foote all year. But he gets tackles (mostly 7-9 yards deep into Steeler territory), and every one thinks he is ok. Missed tackles, TD's allowed, and tackles that nets the opponent 7-9 yards down the field are his specialty.

[NorthCoast]

I have been saying this about Larry Foote all year. But he gets tackles (mostly 7-9 yards deep into Steeler territory), and every one thinks he is ok. Missed tackles, TD's allowed, and tackles that nets the opponent 7-9 yards down the field are his specialty.

More tackles for losses than Dwight Freeney...

[Lebsteel]

That's quite possibly right. Chadman thought the same in the great "Timmons vs Poszluzny" debate when everyone was hammering on about how great Poz was going to be. Given where each is now- the Steelers got it right.

Not convinced the Steelers will be chasing an ILB that early, anyway..

Chad have you checked the stats...Timmons vs. Poz? I dont think the Steelers made the right pick...[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10478/paul-posluszny"]http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10478/paul-posluszny[/URL]

[BigRob]

Why would I do that? I have never said he would go in the top 10. All along I've said that there was a good possibility that the Steelers would have a chance to draft him even if it was as high as 11. And there were many who said we had no chance. Remember? I have said I wouldn't have a problem drafting him top 10 if I were a team that needed a LB. See the difference?

Sure, sure. If that is the weak sauce you want to throw down.

[BigRob]

Chad have you checked the stats...Timmons vs. Poz? I dont think the Steelers made the right pick...[URL]http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10478/paul-posluszny[/URL]

Based on what? How many seasons has this guy missed games due to injury? He is having another surgery for his torn labrum this offseason. This after knee and arm injuries.

You wouldn't be a PSU fan would you?

[Chadman]

Chad have you checked the stats...Timmons vs. Poz? I dont think the Steelers made the right pick...[URL]http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10478/paul-posluszny[/URL]

Nothing there makes Chadman want Poz over Timmons. Poz certainly has greater tackle count numbers, but so far as 'impact plays', Timmons is all over Poz- 23 sacks vs 7 sacks, 11 FF vs 7 FF, 6 Fumble Recoveries vs 1 Fumble Recovery..

All that, and Timmons is 2 years younger. Without the medical history. Poz plays a different role to Timmons- that is for sure. But Poz would be playing the role that Farrior played so well, not the role Timmons has played. Guess it depends on what you look for...

[Eddie Spaghetti]

timmons>poz

not even close, IMO.

[Lebsteel]

Based on what? How many seasons has this guy missed games due to injury? He is having another surgery for his torn labrum this offseason. This after knee and arm injuries.

You wouldn't be a PSU fan would you?

are you inferring that being a Penn State fan would influence my judgement? Ha ha.... Ok maybe a little. Poz has only missed six games in the last five years...but still has 165 more tackles and more interceptions than LT. Poz is the leader type that our defense needs but I also like how LT played this year...much better than 2011. Poz isnt a superstar but sadly neither is LT.

[Lebsteel]

timmons>poz

not even close, IMO.

Lasagna>Eddie imho
As Chad said above...depends on what you are looking for...they both have unique skills that make them very good LBs.