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  • Eddie Spaghetti
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 4123

    #76
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Dee--you keep wanting to blame ;last night on the ND defensive line so you don't have to acknowledge T'eo's warts. ND has a very good DL and they have been solid all season. They just ran into the big boys last night.

    As I said, T'eo reminds me very much of Rey Maleuga coming out of USC. Good but not great. Alec Ogletree was much better against Alabama then T'eo and IMO I would pick him before T'eo from a performance level perspective.
    I'm with ovi on this one.

    not trying to kick the kid while he is down, but last night was extremely troubling.

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    • pfelix73
      Hall of Famer
      • Aug 2008
      • 3458

      #77
      Some bring up that Te'o is the next Malaluga type from USC and now others are comparing him to Ryans. What if, just what if, he's the next Ray Lewis type? Like ruthless says, he is a great team leader... Hell, I'd be happy with a young Farrior type and lets not forget he was 1st round pick too.
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      • Dee Dub
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2010
        • 4652

        #78
        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
        I'm with ovi on this one.

        not trying to kick the kid while he is down, but last night was extremely troubling.
        And how many high draft picks does Alec Ogletree play with? More than Te'o.
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        • BigRob
          Pro Bowler
          • Jul 2008
          • 1381

          #79
          Originally posted by Dee Dub
          I'd be very happy with a Demeco Ryans type. 156 tackles, 126 solo, 9 TFL's, 3.5 sacks, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT, 6 PD's in his rookie year? Too me, that would be so worth a top 10 pick. And be flat out a steal at number 17.

          Rob will you please honestly answer my question about how you think Te'o would have faired if he had the Georgia defense around him versus Alabama. Better? Same? or worse?
          Do you really think that Stephon Tuitt and Louis Nix are that far apart from John Jenkins and the Georgia counterparts? Nope, not talent wise.

          Both teams got absolutely crushed by that Alabama O-line. Alec Ogletree struggled some, but made a lot of big plays against Alabama.

          Te'o is absolutely a first round draft pick. Hell, he would even be a pick to consider outside the top ten for the Steelers. Doesn't make him a top ten pick.

          Calling someone "Demeco Ryans" is not an insult by the way.

          However, Demeco Ryans just illustrates my point that you can get plenty of pro bowl talent at ILB in the second round.
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          • BigRob
            Pro Bowler
            • Jul 2008
            • 1381

            #80
            Originally posted by Dee Dub
            And how many high draft picks does Alec Ogletree play with? More than Te'o.
            We won't know until April '13 and April '14
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            • Dee Dub
              Hall of Famer
              • Jan 2010
              • 4652

              #81
              Originally posted by BigRob
              A couple of scouts on Twitter are saying Te'o is very "Demeco Ryans" like. A great player, but no where near a top ten player.

              I don't like ILB in the first much period, but Kuechly really turned it on the second half of the year for Carolina.

              I'll take Minter in the 2nd/Late 1st over Te'o at this point. Minter proved he can play against this level of competition all season long.
              Kevin Minter is playing with 3 maybe 5 1st round picks on the defense he plays with. Does that not make a difference?
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              • BigRob
                Pro Bowler
                • Jul 2008
                • 1381

                #82
                Originally posted by Dee Dub
                Kevin Minter is playing with 3 maybe 5 1st round picks on the defense he plays with. Does that not make a difference?
                Not saying it doesn't. But no one is advocating taking Minter in the top 10 picks of the draft.

                Here the thing: They are not that far apart at all as players.

                The one big difference? Minter played in the SEC. The level of competition was much better, but no one is touting him as a top ten pick.

                They are not far apart as players and I would bet their measurables are pretty similar.
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                • lloydroid
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2026

                  #83
                  Originally posted by steelz09
                  Te'o in the 1st round?

                  With the way he's getting dominated by Alabama, we might be able to get him in the 2nd.
                  With the way he played, I don't know that we want him in the 2nd round. Seriously, he missed tackles all night long.

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                  • lloydroid
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2026

                    #84
                    Originally posted by BigRob
                    Not saying it doesn't. But no one is advocating taking Minter in the top 10 picks of the draft.

                    Here the thing: They are not that far apart at all as players.

                    The one big difference? Minter played in the SEC. The level of competition was much better, but no one is touting him as a top ten pick.

                    They are not far apart as players and I would bet their measurables are pretty similar.
                    Te'o is overrated because he played for an undefeated ND team. No way would I spend ANY first round pick on him. He got punked all night last night.

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                    • Dee Dub
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4652

                      #85
                      Originally posted by BigRob
                      Not saying it doesn't. But no one is advocating taking Minter in the top 10 picks of the draft.

                      Here the thing: They are not that far apart at all as players.

                      The one big difference? Minter played in the SEC. The level of competition was much better, but no one is touting him as a top ten pick.

                      They are not far apart as players and I would bet their measurables are pretty similar.

                      Yes I agree with this. I've been touting Minter since September. But to think that Kevin Minter isnt helped by having Mingo, Montgomery, Jenkins, Reid, Barrow, Bennie Logan, etc. is flat out not seeing the big picture.
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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        #86
                        Please, everyone, beware passing judgment on a player due to the results of one game against "NFL level" competition...

                        That kind of thinking landed us Troy Edwards in the first round...
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #87
                          I hope no one is passing judgement on Lacy, Teo or any player based on one game... but you have to be concerned when a highly touted player gets man handled like that and misses tackle after tackle.

                          I've seen enough of Teo to know he isn't top 10 or top 15 and anyone who gets him will have their hands full getting him ready for the next level.
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                          • Steelhere10
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3849

                            #88
                            Good article maybe best suited for a 4-3
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                            I think bust is written in him according to friend who is a big Nd fan.
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                            • BigRob
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1381

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Dee Dub
                              Yes I agree with this. I've been touting Minter since September. But to think that Kevin Minter isnt helped by having Mingo, Montgomery, Jenkins, Reid, Barrow, Bennie Logan, etc. is flat out not seeing the big picture.
                              Where did I say it didn't help Minter? Did you miss this part of my post?

                              Not saying it doesn't. But no one is advocating taking Minter in the top 10 picks of the draft.
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                              • Dee Dub
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4652

                                #90
                                Originally posted by BigRob
                                Where did I say it didn't help Minter? Did you miss this part of my post?
                                Well then if it is helping him (to have maybe 3 fist round picks playing in front of him), then it would also help Te'o. And with this maybe that would show more of a separation between the two. ??????
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