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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Originally posted by Chadman

    Given your stance, and opinion, there's no way Lewis moves on then?
    What if he has a Wallace-like attitude? I have no idea if that's the case, but suppose they're two peas in a pod?

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    • Chadman
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      • May 2008
      • 6537

      Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
      What if he has a Wallace-like attitude? I have no idea if that's the case, but suppose they're two peas in a pod?
      If that's the case, then surely the Steelers will put the hard line through him, then turn around & sign Cortez Allen to an extended contract, even though he'll only be a RFA in 2014.......
      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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      • Chadman
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        • May 2008
        • 6537

        Just looking at the responses, it seems we are all quite prepared for A veteran of note to be cut- be it Harrison or Taylor, in order to keep Keenan Lewis.

        Of the available Steelers FA's, it seems we think Ramon Foster might be one of the more affordable & could be retained, but we think Max Starks will prove too expensive.

        Nobody really mentioned Wallace or Mendenhall, so let's assume we think they have already moved out of town.

        Where are we on Larry Foote? Does he come back at a cheap rate, or run out of town?

        Plaxico?
        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          Originally posted by Chadman
          You may be right. Not wanting this thread to disolve into another Wallace/Brown slugfest, so we'll agree to disagree about the reaction to Wallace's rejection of the Steelers offer & the subsequent signing of Antonio Brown. It's done now, anyway- and the Steelers need to get the ship sorted regardless of what happened there.

          Given your stance, and opinion, there's no way Lewis moves on then?
          The only way I see Lewis moving on is if he asks for stupid money. And Foote will be back.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Chadman
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            • May 2008
            • 6537

            Originally posted by Shawn
            The only way I see Lewis moving on is if he asks for stupid money. And Foote will be back.
            The Steelers might need to work hard at him never actually hitting FA, because if he does, 'stupid money' will be where his value sits...
            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

            Light up the darkness.

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            • supersteeler
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2012
              • 1089

              I'm thinking Foote stays.
              I haven't heard any news about spence, his recovery or anything. Its doubtful they would hand him the job @ ILB with no pro experience, and the other option is sylvester who can't even see the field on account of injuries.
              Larry wants to return, had a decent year, and would be a safeguard until we groom another ILB.
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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                Originally posted by Chadman
                If that's the case, then surely the Steelers will put the hard line through him, then turn around & sign Cortez Allen to an extended contract, even though he'll only be a RFA in 2014.......
                Actually, I'd be okay with this...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  Originally posted by Chadman
                  Conversley, this is the least likely scenario. The Steelers won't go into the draft thinking they need to draft a guy to start. Someone will be lined up to be a starter at ILB before the draft- be it Foote, Brandon Johnson or one of the young guys in Sylvester or Spence.

                  Chadman suspects that Spence is the guy the Steelers have identified for the future. But Chadman doubts the future is now. Foote will be back.
                  The Steelers don't "typically" draft a player to start immediately. You are right about that. With that being said, I disagree with you about Foote. The Steelers would have drafted Hightower last year. He would have started from day 1 over Foote. The Steelers feel Foote is a weakness but is a decent stop-gap. They are looking to replace him and this year might be the year. If it wasn't for DeCastro, Foote would have already been replaced.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • Chadman
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                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    Originally posted by steelz09
                    The Steelers don't "typically" draft a player to start immediately. You are right about that. With that being said, I disagree with you about Foote. The Steelers would have drafted Hightower last year. He would have started from day 1 over Foote. The Steelers feel Foote is a weakness but is a decent stop-gap. They are looking to replace him and this year might be the year. If it wasn't for DeCastro, Foote would have already been replaced.

                    Hmmm....ok, agree that the Steelers will be looking to move on from Foote- he's not the long term answer, but they won't go INTO the draft with Sean Spence pencilled in as the starter. Even if they are going to target an ILB, Chadman still thinks Foote gets re-signed to hold the spot until it's taken from him.
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                    • Chadman
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      Actually, I'd be okay with this...


                      Why doesn't this surprise Chadman.
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                      • Chadman
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                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/15/nfl/denver-broncos"]Denver Broncos[/URL] could show interest in [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] impending free-agent WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/20873/nfl/mike-wallace"]Mike Wallace[/URL] or [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl/new-england-patriots"]New England Patriots[/URL] impending free-agent WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/10224/nfl/wes-welker"]Wes Welker[/URL] if they become available this offseason.

                        Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=3#ixzz2JnXXqNeX[/URL]
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                        • Chadman
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                          • May 2008
                          • 6537

                          Annoyingly, it seems Chadman can no longer edit his FA post, so we'll just have to put rumours, updates & the rest of it in the main thread..
                          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                          • Chadman
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                            • May 2008
                            • 6537

                            The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] likely will look for a wide receiver that can be a deep threat in the 2013 [URL="http://www.kffl.com/link/159"]NFL Draft[/URL]. The team has drafted only one receiver in the first round over the last 12 years but has had success in finding receivers in the later rounds of drafts.


                            Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz2JsOFNlaS[/URL]

                            [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] TE [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/26057/nfl/david-paulson"]David Paulson[/URL] may fill in as the team's starting tight end next season until TE [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/11312/nfl/heath-miller"]Heath Miller[/URL] (knee) is able to return for his injury.


                            Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz2JsOJnCmQ[/URL]

                            [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] TE [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/11312/nfl/heath-miller"]Heath Miller[/URL] (knee) will allow his damaged posterior cruciate ligament to heal on its own and will not need surgery. Miller did have surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament and posterior ligament. The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Steelers[/URL] are not sure when Miller will be able to return.


                            Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz2JsOMry3V[/URL]
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                            • Chadman
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 6537

                              Ok, looks like a couple of the figures were off in regards to Cap Cost & Savings. Here is the revised numbers, based on 'the site that shall not be named"

                              James Harrison- Cap Cost: $10,035,000 Savings if Cut: $5,105,000 Final Year: 2014
                              Troy Polamalu- Cap Cost: $10,137,500 Savings if Cut: $4,862,500 Final Year: 2014
                              Ben Roethlisberger- Cap Cost $19,595,000 Savings if Cut: $4,100,000 Final Year: 2015
                              Heath Miller- Cap Cost: $7,958,500 Savings if Cut: $3,812,000 Final Year: 2014
                              Ryan Clark- Cap Cost: $4,750,000 Savings if Cut: $3,500,000 Final Year: 2013
                              Brett Keisel- Cap Cost: $4,500,000 Savings if Cut: $2,825,000 Final Year: 2013
                              Ike Taylor- Cap Cost: $9,454,166 Savings if Cut: $2,545,832 Final Year: 2014
                              Ziggy Hood- Cap Cost: $2,990,860 Savings if Cut: $1,992,325 Final Year: 2013
                              Willie Colon- Cap Cost: $7,650,000 Savings if Cut: $1,200,000 Final Year: 2015
                              Shaun Suisham- Cap Cost: $1,762,500 Savings if Cut: $1,087,500 Final Year: 2014
                              Jerricho Cotchery- Cap Cost: $1,500,000 Savings if Cut: $1,000,000 Final Year: 2013


                              Following these guys it's just a whole lot of small savings.

                              Of note, in case you are one of the 'get rid of Woodley' crowd, cutting Woodley will cost $1,120,000 against the cap- so that'll never happen. Other players it will cost to remove are Cam Heyward ($845,000), Antonio Brown ($600,000), Maurkice Pouncey ($273,375) & David DeCastro ($3,161,772)


                              Something concerning to keep in mind- guys that have the final year of their contract in 2014- Ike Taylor, James Harrison, Troy Polamalu & Heath Miller are already top earners. Those contract numbers will go UP again next season. Both James & Troy are $10m+ this season, with Ike just under. At 35, 33 & 34 years old, respectively- those guys & their contract numbers are bad matches. And Miller is just under $8m this year- coming off major knee injury- and will be 32 next season. Is he going to be worth over $8m next season?

                              Put it this way- that's $40m on 4 guys all over the age of 32. How many players get 'better' at 32?
                              The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                              Light up the darkness.

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                              • Keyplay1
                                Starter
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 613

                                This reply is because there is no green circle on the tread title. I'm surprised because I have read through everything a number of times. I suppose I have not replied because I must agree with just about everything being said. Keep it rolling everyone.

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