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  • Keyplay1
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    • Mar 2011
    • 613

    Chadman said: "The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] likely will look for a wide receiver that can be a deep threat in the 2013 [URL="http://www.kffl.com/link/159"]NFL Draft[/URL]. The team has drafted only one receiver in the first round over the last 12 years but has had success in finding receivers in the later rounds of drafts.

    True, but in 2000 they drafted Plaxico [marvel smith 2rd]and that sort of started things rolling. They missed the PO's that year but in 2001 came up with Hampton and Bell. Then added Hartings as a FA. That year they did a 13-3 and the turnaround lasted thoughout the decade. Same thing is needed this year.

    Hmm! 2000 Plaxico #1 ----- 2006 Santonio -----2012 ??WR could be the BPA.

    What is laughable about this is almost every year I am one who wants to draft all D and more D. But I suppose one has to be realistic at times. You do need to score some points to win also..

    btw: I notice that the links in the last post were from KFFL. In the section with all the UFA's I usually go to that site, but they put everyone altogether and it is hard to figure out. RFA's, signed, resigned, ERFA's etc. That is the real reason I have posted.

    How did you get just the available UFA's listed leaving off the RFA's etc. which no one is ever hardly going to get anyhow? I was looking at the TE's. Pitta was there. But an RFA. Last year it was Webb. Another RFA. They are almost never taken. It does seem like Baltimore is doing everything right lately. But, as I said. TS turned it around early last decade and can do it again.

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    • Chadman
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      • May 2008
      • 6537

      "How did you get just the available UFA's listed leaving off the RFA's etc. which no one is ever hardly going to get anyhow? I was looking at the TE's. Pitta was there. But an RFA. Last year it was Webb. Another RFA. They are almost never taken. It does seem like Baltimore is doing everything right lately. But, as I said. TS turned it around early last decade and can do it again."

      How did Chadman do it? Just a whole lotta typing.

      For what it's worth- kffl is a great site. But the UFA's & RFA's should be kept seperate, in Chadman's opinion- for the exact reasons you brought up, teams hardly ever lose RFA's.

      It's a bad FA class if you are looking for big time difference makers. But if a team is looking to improve the quality of it's role players- this is a pretty good FA group. It might suit the Steelers, given that they nearly always use the draft to get their impact players.

      One guy in FA that is a potential 'difference maker' for the Steelers is one of their own. If they haven't burned the bridge completely- re-signing Mendenhall, given the current roster options, is not a bad move.
      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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      • Keyplay1
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        • Mar 2011
        • 613

        Chadman said: "How did Chadman do it? Just a whole lotta typing.

        Wow! I wouldn't have believed it. But it had to be done. I know one guy that would not begin to think about it. [me] I mean if I can't turn it blue and click it in the post it don't get there.

        It will be very helpful next month when the FA stuff gets heated up.

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        • Chadman
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          • May 2008
          • 6537

          Originally posted by Keyplay1
          Chadman said: "How did Chadman do it? Just a whole lotta typing.

          Wow! I wouldn't have believed it. But it had to be done. I know one guy that would not begin to think about it. [me] I mean if I can't turn it blue and click it in the post it don't get there.

          It will be very helpful next month when the FA stuff gets heated up.
          See what Chadman does for you people?
          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

          Light up the darkness.

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          • supersteeler
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2012
            • 1089

            I wouldn't draft a WR in round one, I want a dominate O-lineman who can start day one.

            Pouncey is our Pro bowl center for the next ten years or beyond, draft Warmack and you would possibly have 3 Pro bowl players on that line with DeCastro.
            Ben needs the best support up front that's possible, I want an impact player not a player you have to groom in round one.

            Example. With the changes made on their Oline the Ravens scored 38 against Denver, 28 against NE, and 34 against the mighty 49ers, with that change Flacco went from a good QB to a great one in the playoffs.
            They already had a run game and receivers but the main unit is the O-line and the battle on the LOS. 49ER'S front seven couldn't dominate like in previous games.

            Ben needs the protection up front, and a line that can run block for whoever we have running the ball, bottom line we need to score points.
            If we turn a way a great O-line player at 17 and draft another position, I don't care who u have a WR, Ben has to have protection to get him the ball.
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            • Keyplay1
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              • Mar 2011
              • 613

              supersteeler said: "I wouldn't draft a WR in round one, I want a dominate O-lineman who can start day one."

              Ol is always a possible candidate for the #1 pick. This year it has competition from WR, DL, ILB/OLB, RB, SS/FS/, CB, and lesser competition at this time from TE, FB, or QB.

              One more question for Chadman: There seems to be a lull in the FA area. Is the following correct.

              Can teams sign at this time until the March contract expiration any of their own FA's.?

              Then at 1sec after midnight on the day FA signing starts----Could any one of the 22 Steeler FA's listed on pg1 in the thread be signed by anyone?

              Also: Sandwiched in on pages 1-3 which covered just about everything for all of us to become mini-Colberts
              was a short post dated like 1-07-2013 about TS talking to FS Cyprien at the Senior Bowl.
              Whoa I'm thinking Does Chadman have a crystal ball or what? The game was just played last week. Okay, I do see it was in the Draft-Rumors, Visits, stuff which will get going heavier with the Combines coming up soon. I will be looking for that stuff for sure.

              Never before did I notice there was a search the thread feature here. I started a serious reply to supersteelers post and was looking for a post I saw where someone made a real good case why TS would probably not draft another OL rd 1. I did not find it so I cancelled the reply. But It was just not in this thread and was somewhere else otherwise I would have surely found it.

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              • Chadman
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                • May 2008
                • 6537

                Can teams sign at this time until the March contract expiration any of their own FA's.?

                Then at 1sec after midnight on the day FA signing starts----Could any one of the 22 Steeler FA's listed on pg1 in the thread be signed by anyone?
                Spot on the mark. The Steelers have from now until March 1 to get their FA's resigned & comply with the NFL Salary Cap. From that point on- it's game on as far as FA goes.


                Sandwiched in on pages 1-3 which covered just about everything for all of us to become mini-Colberts was a short post dated like 1-07-2013 about TS talking to FS Cyprien at the Senior Bowl.
                Whoa I'm thinking Does Chadman have a crystal ball or what? The game was just played last week.
                The magic of the 'edit' button.

                For some reason, however, the 'edit' button no longer works in the FA post..


                Okay, I do see it was in the Draft-Rumors, Visits, stuff which will get going heavier with the Combines coming up soon. I will be looking for that stuff for sure.
                Post-Combine we'll start looking at Steeler draft trends & see if we can't get a picture as to the Steelers plans in the draft. From memory, we got about 4 picks right last season, and 3 from memory the year before...it's all a bit of fun.
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                • Chadman
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                  • May 2008
                  • 6537

                  [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838126-steelers-dependable-larry-foote-needed"]Steelers | Dependable Larry Foote needed [/URL]
                  Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:58:06 -0800

                  Impending free-agent LB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/5815/nfl/larry-foote"]Larry Foote[/URL] (Steelers) is likely to be a player the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] try to re-sign, as they can't be confident LB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/22730/nfl/stevenson-sylvester"]Stevenson Sylvester[/URL] can start and they can't be certain LB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/25911/nfl/sean-spence"]Sean Spence[/URL] (knee) can move into a starting role this season after last year's severe knee injury.


                  Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KPKG8ki0[/URL]
                  The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                  • Chadman
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                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838124-steelers-two-unlikely-to-be-brought-back"]Steelers | Two unlikely to be brought back [/URL]
                    Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:56:46 -0800

                    The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] need to get younger on the offensive line and at backup quarterback, which means the team is unlikely to bring back impending free agents QB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/5891/nfl/byron-leftwich"]Byron Leftwich[/URL] and OT [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/9603/nfl/max-starks"]Max Starks[/URL].


                    Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KPKRRtgj[/URL]


                    [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838125-steelers-versatile-ol-might-be-brought-back"]Steelers | Versatile OL might be brought back [/URL]
                    Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:57:20 -0800

                    Impending free-agent OL [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/19326/nfl/doug-legursky"]Doug Legursky[/URL] (Steelers) might be brought back by the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL], as he was valuable the past two seasons with C [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/22367/nfl/maurkice-pouncey"]Maurkice Pouncey[/URL] dealing with injuries the past two seasons. Legursky can also play guard.


                    Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KPKX26PA[/URL]


                    [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838123-steelers-mike-wallace-not-good-fit"]Steelers | Mike Wallace not good fit [/URL]
                    Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:56:12 -0800

                    The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] do not have enough salary-cap room to keep free-agent WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/20873/nfl/mike-wallace"]Mike Wallace[/URL], and he's not a good fit for offensive coordinator [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/14112/nfl/todd-haley"]Todd Haley[/URL]'s style of offense.


                    Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KPKbvQU1[/URL]
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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                    • Chadman
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838078-steelers-keenan-lewis-expected-to-be-top-priority"]Steelers | Keenan Lewis expected to be top priority [/URL]
                      Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:17:35 -0800

                      The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] are expected to see re-signing impending free-agent CB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/20841/nfl/keenan-lewis"]Keenan Lewis[/URL] as their top priority this offseason.


                      Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=2#ixzz2KPKv0Al7[/URL]


                      [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838079-steelers-cortez-allen-could-start-in-2013"]Steelers | Cortez Allen could start in 2013 [/URL]
                      Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:28:10 -0800

                      [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/URL] CB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/24402/nfl/cortez-allen"]Cortez Allen[/URL] could start at cornerback next season if the team is not able to re-sign impending free-agent CB [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/20841/nfl/keenan-lewis"]Keenan Lewis[/URL] this offseason.


                      Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=2#ixzz2KPKzptRe[/URL]
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                      Light up the darkness.

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                      • Chadman
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                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        Free Agency is still around 3 weeks away. Chadman will keep the rumoured FA updates going as he sees them.

                        However- before FA kicks off, there's this little thing called the Scouting Combine closing in. In the coming days before the Combine, Chadman will go over a few trends of Steeler drafts that might make the results of the Combine a little more interesting. All rumours for the Combine will (hopefully) be updated on the post on the original page of this thread.


                        Anyone feel a draft?
                        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                        Light up the darkness.

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                        • supersteeler
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1089

                          Originally posted by Keyplay1
                          supersteeler said: "I wouldn't draft a WR in round one, I want a dominate O-lineman who can start day one."

                          Ol is always a possible candidate for the #1 pick. This year it has competition from WR, DL, ILB/OLB, RB, SS/FS/, CB, and lesser competition at this time from TE, FB, or QB.

                          One more question for Chadman: There seems to be a lull in the FA area. Is the following correct.

                          Can teams sign at this time until the March contract expiration any of their own FA's.?

                          Then at 1sec after midnight on the day FA signing starts----Could any one of the 22 Steeler FA's listed on pg1 in the thread be signed by anyone?

                          Also: Sandwiched in on pages 1-3 which covered just about everything for all of us to become mini-Colberts
                          was a short post dated like 1-07-2013 about TS talking to FS Cyprien at the Senior Bowl.
                          Whoa I'm thinking Does Chadman have a crystal ball or what? The game was just played last week. Okay, I do see it was in the Draft-Rumors, Visits, stuff which will get going heavier with the Combines coming up soon. I will be looking for that stuff for sure.

                          Never before did I notice there was a search the thread feature here. I started a serious reply to supersteelers post and was looking for a post I saw where someone made a real good case why TS would probably not draft another OL rd 1. I did not find it so I cancelled the reply. But It was just not in this thread and was somewhere else otherwise I would have surely found it.
                          Keyplay1,
                          I did say I would like a dominate O-lineman over a WR in round one, but I know there are more pressing needs that they have to address first. Heck, I have CB picked in round one on my mock, picking this early as opposed to years past is an opportunity to get a good one, as they are hard to get in the later rounds.
                          OLB,ILB SAFETY, are probably our greatest needs, it's just my contention we can still get a good WR later in the rounds, same with running back. Ironically my mock doesn't even have a guard or tackle in it, because I get the sense the Steelers feel they already invested in that line the last few years with Pouncey, Gilbert, Adams, and DeCastro.
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                          • Chadman
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6537

                            [URL="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=838210-patriots-ron-brace-waived"]Patriots | Ron Brace waived [/URL]
                            Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:11:21 -0800

                            The [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl/new-england-patriots"]New England Patriots[/URL] waived DL [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/20778/nfl/ron-brace"]Ron Brace[/URL]. Brace cleared waivers and is free to sign with any team.


                            Read more: [URL]http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=1#ixzz2KTwfdUhw[/URL]


                            Although this isn't Steelers related- Chadman feels he would be a shrew pick-up to add for Training Camp. If you put McLendon, Ta'amu, Fangupo & Brace on the field, and let them play it out to see who sticks, you at least are giving the team plenty of talented options to get it right.
                            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                            Light up the darkness.

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                            • Keyplay1
                              Starter
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 613

                              Originally posted by Chadman
                              Free Agency is still around 3 weeks away. Chadman will keep the rumoured FA updates going as he sees them.

                              However- before FA kicks off, there's this little thing called the Scouting Combine closing in. In the coming days before the Combine, Chadman will go over a few trends of Steeler drafts that might make the results of the Combine a little more interesting. All rumours for the Combine will (hopefully) be updated on the post on the original page of this thread.

                              Anyone feel a draft?
                              The invitees are posted. I am going to go through them and list all the Div II players and also the Div I FCS [formerly DivI AA.

                              ALFORD, ROBERT SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA DB02 DB
                              ARMSTEAD, TERRON ARKANSAS-PINEBLUFF OL03 OL
                              BASS, DAVID MISSOURI WESTERN ST Div II DL03 DL
                              BONNER, ALAN JACKSONVILLE ST-AL WO04 WO
                              BRYANT, ARMONTY EAST CENTRAL Div II DL05 DL
                              FOKETI, MANASE WEST TEXAS A&M OL18 OL
                              GAINES, ROGERS TENNESSEE ST OL21 OL

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                              • Keyplay1
                                Starter
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 613

                                It was too long so I split it up. Geez! It seems nothing works right on that nfl.com. I blame it all on that freaking commish. How many times have I posted that he probably has hired a bunch of half butt relatives to program that site.

                                GILKEY, GARRETT CHADRON ST Div II OL22 OL
                                GOARD, TYRONE EASTERN KENTUCKY WO10 WO
                                HEPBURN, BRANDON FLORIDA A&M LB09 LB
                                HUGHES, MONTORI TENNESSEE-MARTIN DL18 DL
                                JACKSON, MARK GLENVILLE ST Div II OL26 OL
                                JOHNSON-WEBB, JAMAAL ALABAMA A&M OL31 OL
                                KAUFMAN, BRANDON EASTERN WASHINGTON WO18 WO
                                KUGBILA, EDMUND VALDOSTA ST Div II OL33 OL
                                MADY, LAMAR YOUNGSTOWN OL37 OL
                                MAYSONET, MIGUEL STONY BROOK RB2 RB
                                MCCRAY, DEMETRIUS APPALACHIAN ST DB24 DB
                                MELLETTE, AARON ELON WO21 WO
                                MILES, RONTEZ CAL U-PENN Div II DB29 DB
                                POUGH, KEITH HOWARD LB26 LB
                                POWELL, TY HARDING Div II DL37 DL
                                ROGERS, DA’RICK TENNESSEE TECH WO27 WO
                                SMITH, JARED NEW HAMPSHIRE DL41 DL
                                SORENSEN, BRAD SOUTHERN UTAH QB14 QB
                                SPADOLA, RYAN LEHIGH WO31 WO
                                SWANSON, DAXTON SAM HOUSTON ST DB44 DB
                                WATFORD, EARL JAMES MADISON OL53 OL
                                WEBB, B W WILLIAM & MARY DB52 DB
                                WILCOX, J J GEORGIA SOUTHERN DB54 DB
                                WILLIAMS, BRANDON MISSOURI SOUTHERN ST Div II DL48 DL
                                Not sure there is room so I won't post them. But there are a couple dozen schools that are in the Div I FBS that have me ????. Like Central Michigan, Toledo etc.

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