Haley to Arizona?

[flippy]

So if Todd Haley taked the Arizona job and Kirby Wilson is named our new O.C., the Steelers will suck for the next quarter century?

At least he'd make a better OC than Amos Jones.

[lloydroid]

If Ben put as much time and effort into working with Haley and the new playbook as he did being passive aggressive against it; this O could be unstoppable. I hope Haley stays and the Rooney's have the "stop being a whiny douche" chat with BB.

BB does tend to be a whiny douche bag. He is one step away from being a Jay Cutler.

[fezziwig]

So if Todd Haley taked the Arizona job and Kirby Wilson is named our new O.C., the Steelers will suck for the next quarter century?

Good, I thought you guys wouldn't have read between the lines because, I didn't want to come straight out and insult Tomlin or Kirby. There will be plenty of pitchforks and torches to go around when things go down the tubes.

I see Kirby with no play calling experience, more of Arians type stuff he will probably engage and Tomlin, doesn't have the smarts to know what is right or what is wrong with an offense. Art II figured that much out and did the job Tomlin should have done seasons ago by showing Arians the door. Is Haley Gods gift to the NFL ? No...but he's light years ahead of Arians and one season of a QB that doesn't back you and all the injuries is not an accurate measuring stick of Tod Haley. The guy deserves another two seasons if he does go to another team, God help us under Kirby.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

It is becoming very clear that the OC has no real control in Pittsburgh. In Arizona Haley had a SB winning QB and two good WR's so he threw the ball to the tune of having his offense ranked 4th in the NFL. In KC he had a decent OL and some good RB's so they ran the ball and had a decent offense. Dude has shown he can utilize the talents of the players to design an offense. Here in Pgh though where we have no OL healthy we need to run it 50% of the time no matter what.

[Oviedo]

Good, I thought you guys wouldn't have read between the lines because, I didn't want to come straight out and insult Tomlin or Kirby. There will be plenty of pitchforks and torches to go around when things go down the tubes.

I see Kirby with no play calling experience, more of Arians type stuff he will probably engage and Tomlin, doesn't have the smarts to know what is right or what is wrong with an offense. Art II figured that much out and did the job Tomlin should have done seasons ago by showing Arians the door. Is Haley Gods gift to the NFL ? No...but he's light years ahead of Arians and one season of a QB that doesn't back you and all the injuries is not an accurate measuring stick of Tod Haley. The guy deserves another two seasons if he does go to another team, God help us under Kirby.

Arians led a team with much less talent to the play offs. Was he really that bad?

[feltdizz]

Arians is in the playoffs with a rookie QB... where are we?

[Snatch98]

Arians is in the playoffs with a rookie QB... where are we?

Recovering. I really don't understand why people keep ignoring the injury factor. Yes teams have injuries, yes they are a part of the game AND YES we had problems beyond just injuries. However how is a team supposed to build any sort of momentum when week after week a main cog went down with injury? The list is long and distinguished AND we still finished 8-8. It then shakes out after the season that Ben is "too injured" to play in the Pro Bowl which I believe with a whole heart BECAUSE the guy didn't look like himself to close out the season. A few of those outside passes were down right awful, Derek Anderson awful. Yet here we are trying to place blame on Todd Haley. The same guy that had Ben upright more than he's ever been and putting up fantastic numbers. Let's just chalk this up to a bad year that had a whole lot go wrong. You certainly can't lay blame on any one entity AND despite all the CRAP. We still finished 8-8. Bottom line? Our fan base is BEYOND SPOILED and unreasonable. Give it a damn rest.

[Steelhere10]

Todd Haley is now the front runner for the Cards job.

[fezziwig]

Arians was in control of two offenses that were in the Super Bowl prior to him being appointed to OC The Colts had a horrible season without Manning, no one can deny that but, prior to that, their team was always a playoff contender. Just more proof it takes a good QB to win in this league. Arians has had the luxury of having future HOF qb's carry his sorry butt all these years.

[lloydroid]

I think I would thrive as an OC if Kurt Warner was my QB. Right now, Haley is the front runner for the AZ job. So now what? We have to go through the learning curve again of a whole new offense? Who ever it is, better know how to freaking call plays and get a rushing attack going. I am so sick of rooting for a Steeler team that ranks near the bottom in rushing. It is pathetic. 26th in the league, with a paltry 3.7 apc. Horrific.

[fezziwig]

I think I would thrive as an OC if Kurt Warner was my QB. Right now, Haley is the front runner for the AZ job. So now what? We have to go through the learning curve again of a whole new offense? Who ever it is, better know how to freaking call plays and get a rushing attack going. I am so sick of rooting for a Steeler team that ranks near the bottom in rushing. It is pathetic. 26th in the league, with a paltry 3.7 apc. Horrific.

I agree. For years now we had Arians that won't have a blocking back on his teams, a guy that only had three running plays in his offense. Now we have Haley, a first year man with the team that has seen more changes in his o-line than Mike Tomlin has quips. Top it off with Tomlins inability to name a starter but I really don't put too much heat on Tomlin for that. Mendenhall was coming off a bad injury the season prior, got hurt again. The other guys have had their bruises too. I still don't know why Dwyer takes himself out of the games and he seems to do it after he gets steam rolling or has the defenses on their heals.
If anyone thought Haly was going to change this offense into something better in just one season, take of the rose colored glasses.

[feltdizz]

You guys sound crazy... Why would Haley want a HC gig without a franchise QB? Probably because his goal is to be a HC. If not... So be it but stop acting like Warner was this beast when Haley arrived. He was old, coming from the Giants and wasn't the starter when he arrived.

Also remember... They draft players every year and may find a journey man. As long as Fitz is in AZ I OCthink any OC would entertain taking the job.

It isn't ego or money... It's competition and Haley probably wants to prove he can succeed as an OC. He may lap think Ben isn't coachable...

I just think most coaches want to be HC's and you don't turn down a job because you don't have a a franchise QB.

[NorthCoast]

Got mixed feelings on this one. Could be a case of two steps forward, one step back or vice versa. Finding another OC would be a step back, but if Ben and Haley truly didn't see eye to eye, this is one way to make a clean break.
As far Haley as OC, again, incomplete picture. One half season of outstanding play, and half season of total barf. One thought is that defenses caught up to Haley's scheme by mid-season and found it easily defensed. Other thought of course, the OL & Ben injuries screwed everything up.
So if Haley finds work elsewhere, so be it. If not, I can live with another season to see what Haley really is about. Anyway, if the O pans out next season, Haley would likely be in line for another HC.

[Starlifter]

Haley already did a stint as a HC without a franchise QB. didn't work out too well. on the other hand, a few years of success in pittsburgh WITH a franchise QB and a solid organization can only help increase his value. HC pay isn't going down anytime soon and it seems owner tend to covet what they can't have. in other words, wait a year or two - try to win a SB with Ben and THEN cash in.

or go to AZ and be fired again within 4 years. the bidwells rank amongst the worst owners in the league.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Arizona has what, the 7th pick? I wouldn't be shocked to see Geno Smith drop in the draft or Arizona take a QB in round 1 or 2 and jump on the young QB train that half the playoff teams have ridden to the tournament. Haley got handed QB's in KC and Pittsburgh as well as in Arizona as an OC. Arizona went to the SB with Haley and Warner and Ben was having a career year under his watch before the OL fell apart (again) and Ben got hurt.