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  • Sugar
    Hall of Famer
    • Oct 2008
    • 3700

    #76
    Originally posted by pittpete
    I'm beginning to have mixed feelings on this.
    Offense looked OK in the beginning when the OL wasn't in shambles.
    More and more I'm starting to accept that a really bad OL has been our nemesis.
    BA was predictable as hell though.
    Does it matter if you're fairly predictable if the other team can't stop it? I think the OL problems were probably more of the issue, though I could be wrong...

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    • thor75
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2012
      • 1038

      #77
      Originally posted by Sugar
      Does it matter if you're fairly predictable if the other team can't stop it? I think the OL problems were probably more of the issue, though I could be wrong...
      I agree, control the line of scrimmage, control the game imo.
      1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
      2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
      3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
      4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
      5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
      5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
      6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
      6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
      7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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      • ikestops85
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2008
        • 3724

        #78
        Originally posted by pittpete
        I'm beginning to have mixed feelings on this.
        Offense looked OK in the beginning when the OL wasn't in shambles.
        More and more I'm starting to accept that a really bad OL has been our nemesis.
        BA was predictable as hell though.
        I don't know if anyone else saw the Colts - Ratbirds game but watching Luck in the Indy offense sure brought back some memories. You would see Luck drop back to pass and it was either a wide receiver screen or he would stand in that pocket forever waiting for his receivers to complete their routes. The guy took one helluva beating in that game.

        Now back to the topic at hand. I wasn't real happy when they hired Haley. I thought he took the credit for other's work ... Whiz in Arizona and Weiss in KC. But he surprised me and by the time we beat the Giants I was really digging his offense. It seemed to frustrate the opponents defense with the way we converted 3d down after 3rd down. We started to get a little creative with our passing inside the 10 yard line instead of running the back up the middle for 2 plays and then throwing an alley oop to one of our undersized receivers.

        Ben was staying clean and playing like an MVP, the line was starting to get confident, our TE was becoming unstoppable and then the next wave of injuries hit. We never seemed to recover from those injuries. I'd really like Haley to stick around so I can see him complete what he started with this offense. I think he can make it one of the best in the league.
        As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

        but Go Steelers!!!

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #79
          The 3rd down conversion rate was great but I'm not sure if that was Haley or Ben... or both. Early in the year it didn't matter what the distance was... Ben was completing the pass to keep the chains moving but did we score a ton of points? Not really... did we make teams pay when we got the occasional TO... no.

          Hopefully these things improve...

          The one knock I had on Indy was the empty backfield on 4th and 2. That's an Arians staple I don't miss. No threat to run to keep the D honest. WTF?

          The real problem with Indy is young players... they didn't look ready for playoff football and it showed. Ray Rice gave them a few chances too. Sure, you can knock Arians for a few things but we watched Indy play a playoff game and have a shot at advancing.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #80
            Arians didn't call that playoff game. He was in the hospital....
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #81
              Slap, it was still BA's offense. Just run even more ineffectually than usual

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              • fordfixer
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 10921

                #82
                Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                That's what BA thought....





                Maybe I shouldn't be the one making this point...I was one who was calling for BA to go.
                I still do think it was time for a change, but the team had winning seasons while he was OC.
                but BA didn't run the ball

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                • ikestops85
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 3724

                  #83
                  I just thought it was interesting as I watched Luck stand in the pocket holding the ball for what seemed like forever before launching it downfield. It seems to be such a high risk/high reward offensive strategy. I think BA is lucky he had Ben and now Luck as his QBs to implement this offense. I don't think a Brady or a Manning could pull it off. Nor would they want to.
                  As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                  but Go Steelers!!!

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #84
                    Originally posted by ikestops85
                    I just thought it was interesting as I watched Luck stand in the pocket holding the ball for what seemed like forever before launching it downfield. It seems to be such a high risk/high reward offensive strategy. I think BA is lucky he had Ben and now Luck as his QBs to implement this offense. I don't think a Brady or a Manning could pull it off. Nor would they want to.
                    They would throw the ball much earlier than Luck or Ben...
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • ikestops85
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3724

                      #85
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      They would throw the ball much earlier than Luck or Ben...
                      I might have agreed with you had it just been Ben but with Luck handling it the same way I think it's the way BA designed the offense.
                      As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                      but Go Steelers!!!

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #86
                        Ed Bouchette reported that Haley was in Arizona today interviewing.

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                        • Sugar
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3700

                          #87
                          Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Ed Bouchette reported that Haley was in Arizona today interviewing.
                          It's funny because Haley's agent is denying it. He says that Haley is happy in Pittsburgh and not interested in the job in AZ. This probably means he's having dinner with the Bidwell's right about now.

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