One big Steelers blunder: Kraig Urbik

[BigRob]

I've seen Spiller make 3 guys miss in the back field and gain 15 yards.

This proves what? That he doesn't need a good o-line? Or he's doing it by himself? This is the most asinine argument that can be made. Unbelievable.

[BigRob]

I'm not stalking you Rob... I promise.

Redskins are using a gimmick offense... once teams get a year of film on RGIII and his deadly ball fakes I doubt Morris or that OL will be as impressive. I don't remember Morris running all over us and I also watched Carolina keep their O in check.

Your ignoring the fact that Mike Shanahan has always had success running the ball with non-elite backs. Part of it is scheme, a large part of it is good o-line and coaching.

[Snatch98]

IF Spiller were on this team, he'd be running and gaining all those yards and TD's just like he does for the Bills. We need a big time RB, and let's face it, the guys we have now are just avg.

Speed kills and Spiller has it. He has ELITE speed and that's the difference. I also disagree that they guys we have are "average" but with our play calling and inconsistent line play it's been tough sledding. I still believe that Mendenhall behind a o-line that is worth a damn and inventive play calling he's the guy we need. Spiller is shifty and once again has elite speed. Mendenhall has very solid speed but not Spiller speed.

[BigRob]

Speed kills and Spiller has it. He has ELITE speed and that's the difference. I also disagree that they guys we have are "average" but with our play calling and inconsistent line play it's been tough sledding. I still believe that Mendenhall behind a o-line that is worth a damn and inventive play calling he's the guy we need. Spiller is shifty and once again has elite speed. Mendenhall has very solid speed but not Spiller speed.

Giving way too much credit to Spiller. He deserves credit, but so does his offensive line.

Outside of Decastro and Pouncey, who is even average? I would say Starks is just average.

[SidSmythe]

Not only do the Bills run the ball effectively. They're also at the top of the league in fewest sacks allowed

[feltdizz]

This proves what? That he doesn't need a good o-line? Or he's doing it by himself? This is the most asinine argument that can be made. Unbelievable.

It proves a great running back makes an OL look great...

[feltdizz]

Not only do the Bills run the ball effectively. They're also at the top of the league in fewest sacks allowed

Fitzpatrick has 15 INT's and 7 fumbles.. Fitzpatrick isn't afraid to chuck it but he is afraid of being hit. I've watched a game or 2 and he tosses the ball anytime he is pressured.

Don't get me wrong... I wish Ben would chuck a few more instead of taking the sack but it's not his style.

[lloydroid]

I'm not going to be to tough on them for ditching Urbik; if you recall he had cinder blocks for feet when he was here. He was very un-athletic to the point of barely being able to move.

[Dee Dub]

****, he has been for the Bills. Have you seen the way they run the ball?

Yep..and same thing with Kevin Zeitler of the Bengals (first year starter), I had a post last year with you tube clips showing him manhandling people and all I heard was he cant be good because he plays at the same university as Kraig Urbik did.

[Slapstick]

Not only do the Bills run the ball effectively. They're also at the top of the league in fewest sacks allowed

Not really. There are 13 teams that have allowed fewer sacks this year than Buffalo...

Buffalo has given up 28 sacks while the Steelers have given up 31...it's not a big difference at all...

[BigRob]

Not really. There are 13 teams that have allowed fewer sacks this year than Buffalo...

Buffalo has given up 28 sacks while the Steelers have given up 31...it's not a big difference at all...

Yeah, but what are their rushing numbers? Oh, I forgot it was all Spiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllllllllller!

Steelers have that few of sacks because Ben missed 3 games and offense is designed for short quick throws. Not so for the Bills.

If we had their rushing ability with Big Ben, we would be fighting for a bye right now.

[Slapstick]

Yeah, but what are their rushing numbers? Oh, I forgot it was all Spiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllllllllllller!

Steelers have that few of sacks because Ben missed 3 games and offense is designed for short quick throws. Not so for the Bills.

If we had their rushing ability with Big Ben, we would be fighting for a bye right now.

Ben averages .7 yards more per attempt than Ryan Fitzpatrick...per attempt!!!

Spiller and Jackson have rushed for almost 4200 yards combined over the last three years and they still have two more games...

What about our top 2 backs?

[BigRob]

Ben averages .7 yards more per attempt than Ryan Fitzpatrick...per attempt!!!

Spiller and Jackson have rushed for almost 4200 yards combined over the last three years and they still have two more games...

What about our top 2 backs?

Average per attempt means ****. Thats a QB thing, not how the offense is designed. Bills offense is a mid to deep passing offense. Fitzpatrick is just ****. Can't even compare them.

Steelers are a short to intermediate passing team.

And again I'll ask you: The Offensive line has nothing to do with their running success? It's all Jackson/Spiller.

That's just laughable.

Is it that hard to admit that the Steelers blundered and gave up on Urbik too soon? He has developed into a starting caliber guard in the NFL. Your saying we couldn't have used that this year?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

urbik would be no better than a back up here. He couldn't beat out foster then and he couldn't beat out foster now.

I would take him over legursky in a heartbeat though.

[lloydroid]

It proves a great running back makes an OL look great...

Dwyer made this OL look good for a few games, and then I don't know what happened after that.