does this change anyones opinion of wallace now?

[squidkid]

oh well.

all that is true.

it's up to wallace to decide what he wants to play for. I also said 5 years 45 million sounded right to me, but I'm not mike wallace so it doesn't matter what I think. The tantrum you have thrown in every thread is extremely tiresome.

that's what i thought

[Eddie Spaghetti]

don't think too hard, I know it taxes you.

I actually hope wallace signs even more now and has another pro bowl year just to see the reaction here.

[steelz09]

what YOU think is fair might not fill a toilet bowl.

your name isn't mike wallace so YOU don't get to decide what HE thinks is fair.

get it?

I think my "fair" salary should be 250k a year. Does that mean my employer thinks that? No. Does that mean any employer thinks that? No.

It's like selling a house. I may get my house appraised at 200k and so I think that is the "fair" value. However, in reality, it doesn't matter what I think my house is worth and it doesn't matter how much the appraiser thinks it's worth. What really matters is what you can sell it for. If I can only sell it for 150K then then it doesn't matter what the "fair" value is.

Where am I going with this? Back to Mike Wallace. It doesn't matter what Mike thinks is fair and it doesn't matter what his agent thinks. It's a matter of what he can get. It's a choice Mike Wallace needs to make. Here are the options the way I see it:

1) Sign the tender and play this year. Become an UFA and possibly get an offer that matches what he thinks he's worth from a team not named the "Pittsburgh Steelers"

2) Hold out the majority of the year and possibly get what he THINKS he deserves next year from a team not named the "Pittsburgh Steelers"

3) Sign a long-term deal with the Steeler that might not equal what he thinks he's worth but might come close. It's job security and it's guaranteed money.

If he goes w/ #1, injury or a lackluster season could significantly impact his future negotiations. If he goes w/ #2, he could still get injured and he'll need to put up some stats in a short amount of time or it could hurt his future negotiations. Personally, I think he should have "man up" and signed because the other options are risky for him and his agent.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

of course it matters what wallace.thinks is fair. That's is what's driving all this, I assume.

they may never get that and sign for less, but it most certainly matters.

[squidkid]

don't think too hard, I know it taxes you.

I actually hope wallace signs even more now and has another pro bowl year just to see the reaction here.

is that your best effort at a comeback for being proven a liar?

sheeesh, talk about thinking too hard

[Eddie Spaghetti]

a liar?

sorry for not archiving all my posts on the internet.

how old are you? 12?

[hawaiiansteel]

It's like selling a house. I may get my house appraised at 200k and so I think that is the "fair" value. However, in reality, it doesn't matter what I think my house is worth and it doesn't matter how much the appraiser thinks it's worth. What really matters is what you can sell it for. If I can only sell it for 150K then then it doesn't matter what the "fair" value is.

it does matter what you think the "fair" value of your home is because if you don't get that price you may just opt not to sell it.

same for Mike Wallace, if he doesn't believe he is getting his "fair" value he won't agree to the contract offered. so it actually does matter quite a bit what Wallace thinks...

having said that, I believe Wallace will not be a Pittsburgh Steeler next season as he has overpriced himself right out of Pittsburgh.

[steelz09]

of course it matters what wallace.thinks is fair. That's is what's driving all this, I assume.

they may never get that and sign for less, but it most certainly matters.

I don't think you're getting what I'm trying to explain. My point is that it doesn't matter what he thinks is fair if he wants to be employed this year or next. A person, a product, a service is only worth what people are willing to pay. If every team in the league thinks he's worth less than what he thinks is fair, guess what? He's not going to get the money he wants from ANY team.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

hawaiian said it better than I did.

of course it matters what he wants whether he gets it or not.

a product or a service doesn't think for themselves. A person does.

[squidkid]

a liar?

sorry for not archiving all my posts on the internet.

how old are you? 12?

how long are you going to try to save face?
i might as well say that i never said anything bad about wallace and i fully support him for holding out and hope that he breaks the cap for years to come. then when someone proves that i lied, i can say 'ooops, you caught me'. then i will proceed to try to insult them because i was wrongh and got busted........that would be cool.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I could give a rats ass about saving face on the internet junior.

try another angle.

[steelz09]

it does matter what you think the "fair" value of your home is because if you don't get that price you may just opt not to sell it.

same for Mike Wallace, if he doesn't believe he is getting his "fair" value he won't agree to the contract offered. so it actually does matter quite a bit what Wallace thinks...

having said that, I believe Wallace will not be a Pittsburgh Steeler next season as he has overpriced himself right out of Pittsburgh.

Of course... that's the case. My analogy was more geared towards if you didn't have the option NOT to sell.

With that being said, let's use your added comment into my original analogy. If you want "fair" value for your home at 200k and I don't think that is fair value based on market conditions, I'm not paying it. As the person offering the house, I have to think... take less money now and have it guaranteed (Wallace Translation: Sign a long-term deal with the steelers), take it off the market for a year and try to get "fair" value then (Wallace Translation: Hold Out for Next Year), or wait for another offer from someone else (Wallace Translation: Not possible because he's a RFA, not a UFA). We'll leave trades out of it.

Obviously, sports is a bit different but that is where the Steelers are at. They don't agree with what Mike Wallace thinks his fair value is so they aren't offering the contract he wants. It's as simple as that. If Wallace wants to "roll the dice" and wait until next year to see if he can get his "so called" fair value then he should go for it. But, I guarantee that offer next year won't be coming from the Steelers.

[squidkid]

I could give a rats ass about saving face on the internet junior.

try another angle.

good, because you're not succeeding, liar

[steelz09]

guys/gals/it's (jk)

Chill out with the name calling and personal attacks. I don't want this to escalate for no reason. It's not worth it.

[squidkid]

guys/gals/it's (jk)

Chill out with the name calling and personal attacks. I don't want this to escalate for no reason. It's not worth it.

i agree......