does this change anyones opinion of wallace now?

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  • Decleater
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 35

    #16
    I think what the problem has grown into is a distraction for the team. The FO has decided to move on as a result. Sure, it would be nice to have Wallace sign a long term contract but it's not in the cards. I see it like management being a contractor making bids on jobs. He simply doesn't win all the jobs. And, he has set financial parameters to work within for each.
    "Let's see...who do we play next Sunday?"

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    • fezziwig
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2009
      • 3515

      #17
      thanks squidkid, we want players that have hwart lol. i don't see this being a distraction for the team and why would it be. when they are out on the field practicing i doubt any of them are worrying about mike wallace. they know it's just the way things are. if they're distracted by this kind of stuff then anything can get to them. they're probably more concerened about statying or getting in to shape, earning a spot on the team.

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      • Eddie Spaghetti
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 4123

        #18
        squidkid-

        please show me one fan that is "hoping wallace gets 10-14 million per year". At least try and be factual instead of pulling stuff out of your backside.

        most rational fans want the steelers to retain wallace somewhere near the 9 million per year mark. You, on the other hand, seem to want to throw a tantrum and make wild exaggerations.

        the steelers are a better football team with mike wallace. Sorry you can't see that.

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #19
          here's what keeps bugging me, we know Cleveland is far, far, far under the cap and they have no legitimate starting WR beyond Little. Why haven't they tried to offer Wallace a boatload of money? Something is amiss in this Wallace deal...

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #20
            Originally posted by fezziwig
            The Steelers know what they ae doing and that is what comforts me and allows me to rally around the players that we have and players that want to be a Steeler.

            This is the key part of what you said. The Steelers did not give Brown the contract they did just to tweak Wallace's nose. They see these guys everyday and obviously they made a value judgement that Brown was worth that money. Maybe they want Wallace but they aren't willing to break the bank for him. That speaks volumes.

            It has been mentioned many times before that Wallace does not have a lot of leverage because of the depth we have at WR. He definitely has overplayed his hand from the time this thing started.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Va Steelr
              Backup
              • Dec 2009
              • 138

              #21
              I agree 100%

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              • squidkid
                Legend
                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #22
                Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                squidkid-

                please show me one fan that is "hoping wallace gets 10-14 million per year". At least try and be factual instead of pulling stuff out of your backside.

                most rational fans want the steelers to retain wallace somewhere near the 9 million per year mark. You, on the other hand, seem to want to throw a tantrum and make wild exaggerations.

                the steelers are a better football team with mike wallace. Sorry you can't see that.
                its been reported that the steelers offered 10 million per year. he turned it down. numerous fans are siding with wallace stating that he should get as much money as possible. so, if 10 million isnt enough for wallace to sign for and fans are still supporting him for holding out, it shows to me that some fans want him to make more than 10 million. 10-14 million is more than 10 million.
                wallace does make this team better, at a decent price. wallace doesnt make this team better if we arent able to sign other playhers that could help us. how can you not see that?
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • Sugar
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3700

                  #23
                  I really don't care how much Mike Wallace makes, but I would rather see him with the Steelers than not. Can they win without him? Sure, they absolutely can. However, they will be a better team with him than without him. I have no problem with him or the team. It's business and each side has their agenda.

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                  • ter1230_4
                    Backup
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 199

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sugar
                    I really don't care how much Mike Wallace makes, but I would rather see him with the Steelers than not. Can they win without him? Sure, they absolutely can. However, they will be a better team with him than without him. I have no problem with him or the team. It's business and each side has their agenda.
                    I am one of those Steelers fans that is really unhappy with Mike Wallace. If money is the most important thing in his life and he wants to get the most possible, I don't have any problem with that at all. What I do have a problem with is that he is completely ignoring the fact that he IS NOT AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT. He's only been in the NFL for three years, and is a restricted free agent. That's just the way the system works. The Steelers have acted in good faith throughout the process of negotiating with Wallace, as exemplified by the fact that they declined to reduce the tender by $2 million as they were entitled to do. And how does Wallace respond? By refusing to sign the tender and holding out. And let's face it, the only purpose to holding out is to threaten that you're not going to show up until week 10. Does that sound like a team player to anyone? So Wallace has done everything but act in good faith.

                    Contrast the actions of Wallace with those of a real Pittsburgh Steeler, Lamar Woodley. Two years ago Wodley was in the final year of his initial contract and scheduled to make $500,000. Because of the restrictions involved with the uncapped season, the Steelers were absolutely precluded from signing Woodley to any kind of reasonable extension. So Woodley was stuck playing for $500,000 that year. And what did Woodley do? He kept his mouth shut, showed up at the start of camp, played his ass off, helped get the Steelers to the Super Bowl, and got paid. Woodley wanted to be a Pittsburgh Steeler, Mike Wallace does not. I wouldn't trade Wallace, I'd let him stew. If he wants to show up for the final 6 games, then don't franchise him next year and take the 3rd round pick in 2014. The Steelers are bigger than Mike Wallce.

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                    • Sugar
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3700

                      #25
                      The Steelers are indeed bigger than Mike Wallace. That said, the Steelers have been around since 1933 and will be around for the foreseeable future. Mike Wallace will get a maximum NFL career of 10ish years. He's got to get all he can, while he can.

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                      • steelz09
                        Administrator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4675

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sugar
                        The Steelers are indeed bigger than Mike Wallace. That said, the Steelers have been around since 1933 and will be around for the foreseeable future. Mike Wallace will get a maximum NFL career of 10ish years. He's got to get all he can, while he can.
                        And that's fine too but if he wants more than what the Steelers think he's worth (rumor: 10mil/year) then he can play for someone else. Quite frankly, for over 10 million a year, I hope he does play for someone else. That is plenty for a one-trick poney.
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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ter1230_4
                          If money is the most important thing in his life and he wants to get the most possible, I don't have any problem with that at all. What I do have a problem with is that he is completely ignoring the fact that he IS NOT AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT. He's only been in the NFL for three years, and is a restricted free agent. That's just the way the system works.
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                          • Sugar
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3700

                            #28
                            Originally posted by steelz09
                            And that's fine too but if he wants more than what the Steelers think he's worth (rumor: 10mil/year) then he can play for someone else. Quite frankly, for over 10 million a year, I hope he does play for someone else. That is plenty for a one-trick poney.
                            I guess it just depends on how much you value that trick.

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                            • SteelCrazy
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5049

                              #29
                              The 50 million dollar contract Wallace was offered and he refused was probably back end loaded just like Brown's and that is why Wallace turned them down. Ed Bouchette and many others believe the Steelers will not offer any more contracts to Wallace, even if he signs the tender, because of Brown's new contract. Does everyone else agree?
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                              • Snatch98
                                Pro Bowler
                                • May 2008
                                • 1451

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                                The 50 million dollar contract Wallace was offered and he refused was probably back end loaded just like Brown's and that is why Wallace turned them down. Ed Bouchette and many others believe the Steelers will not offer any more contracts to Wallace, even if he signs the tender, because of Brown's new contract. Does everyone else agree?
                                Right here right now I don't agree with Bouchette at all. Let's see where we are in a week or so. Brown signed the back loaded deal for a reason, otherwise why not offer him more money up front? I would wager they make another play at Wallace before the season starts unless something shakes out from the woodwork indicating otherwise in the near future.

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