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  • Slapstick
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    • May 2008
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    Originally posted by Crash
    Well guess what? When the defense comes on the field FIRST and gives up points and time off the clock? Not much the offense can do for them at that point.
    Bceause the offense isn't allowed to score until the 4th quarter?

    Unless the defense gives up a 56 play 45 minute drive, the offense can do something before the 4th...
    Last edited by Slapstick; 06-13-2012, 04:07 PM.
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • hawaiiansteel
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      • May 2008
      • 35649

      Originally posted by Crash
      Well guess what? When the defense comes on the field FIRST and gives up points and time off the clock? Not much the offense can do for them at that point.

      the offense could try and score more than 3 points the rest of the game like they did against the 49ers.

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      • Crash
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        • Apr 2009
        • 5008

        Originally posted by Slapstick
        Bceause the offense isn't allowed to score until the 4th quarter?
        How can they score when don't get on the field for 12 minutes to start a game?

        The Steelers FOR YEARS with Roethlisberger have been one of the best 1st quarter teams in football.

        And LeBeau's defense in the 4th quarter STILL SUCKS.

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        • Slapstick
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          • May 2008
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          Originally posted by Crash
          How can they score when don't get on the field for 12 minutes to start a game?
          Aren't there an additional 48 minutes in an NFL game?
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Crash
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            • Apr 2009
            • 5008

            Originally posted by Slapstick
            Aren't there an additional 48 minutes in an NFL game?
            And the game was tied with less than a quarter to go after the offense scored 10 points on two straight possessions in the second half.

            Then LeBeau's defense went back on the field.

            You can guess what happened next.

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35649

              Originally posted by Crash
              And the game was tied with less than a quarter to go after the offense scored 10 points on two straight possessions in the second half.

              Then LeBeau's defense went back on the field.

              You can guess what happened next.

              which game are you now referring to?

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                Originally posted by Crash
                And the game was tied with less than a quarter to go after the offense scored 10 points on two straight possessions in the second half.

                Then LeBeau's defense went back on the field.

                You can guess what happened next.
                And the offense roared right back and scored more than 10 points in the last 48 minutes, right?

                Look, I'm happy if the defense only gives up 17 points to a good team..

                I'm not happy if the offense only scores 10...

                If that makes me wrong or hypodritical in your eyes, I'll have to live with that...

                As you've pointed out, the league is "phasing out defense"...so, why are the Steelers, with a HoF QB and elite WRs happy with 10 points? Why should I be happy with 10?
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Crash
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  Look, I'm happy if the defense only gives up 17 points to a good team..


                  LIke I said, stat geek, that's what you are.

                  They only "looked good" on defense once Andre Johnson pulled his hamstring and then the STEELERS OFFENSE held the ball for 13 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

                  But then the defense had to go back on the field after we scored, and once again, they gave the lead right back.

                  I guess they were tired after a 20 minute half time and 2 minutes of work in the 3rd quarter.

                  Anyone who praises that defense for that game? Isn't qualified or bright enough to discuss this team with me.


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                  • Slapstick
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                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    Originally posted by Crash
                    LIke I said, stat geek, that's what you are.

                    They only "looked good" on defense once Andre Johnson pulled his hamstring and then the STEELERS OFFENSE held the ball for 13 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

                    But then the defense had to go back on the field after we scored, and once again, they gave the lead right back.

                    I guess they were tired after a 20 minute half time and 2 minutes of work in the 3rd quarter.

                    Anyone who praises that defense for that game? Isn't qualified or bright enough to discuss this team with me.


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                    So, you're happy if the offense can't break the 10 point barrier?

                    So, what's a good number for the defense as far as points allowed? 10? 7? 0?

                    If wanting my offense to do better than 10 points with Big Ben, Mike Wallace, Heath Miller, etc. makes me a stat geek, then okay...

                    But, I don't think that's how it works...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • Crash
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      If wanting my offense to do better than 10 points with Big Ben, Mike Wallace, Heath Miller, etc. makes me a stat geek, then okay...


                      Can't score a load of points when you get 3 quarters to do it.

                      The defense sucked in that game. The fact that you are "happy" with their performance is exactly what I'm talking about when I say how cluless some fans are in regard to this team.



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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35649

                        Originally posted by Crash
                        Can't score a load of points when you get 3 quarters to do it.
                        are you kidding me, you can certainly score more than 10...

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                        • Crash
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                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          are you kidding me, you can certainly score more than 10...
                          If you don't force the run you can.

                          What's sad about that game is down three points to take the lead BA did what Slap wants:

                          Three runs, no passes.

                          They kicked a FG and the defense went on the field and gave back a TD anway.

                          Remember, if Ben throws 657 passes Todd Haley will be fired by Art Rooney II.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            If you don't force the run you can.

                            nice try, but the Steelers only ran the ball 22 times while passing 30 times. doesn't sound like they were forcing the run to me.

                            perhaps going 1 for 3 in the red zone had more to do with it, yet another reason why Arians needed to be replaced.

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                            • squidkid
                              Legend
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 5847

                              hey crash, number two in time of possession would make me a think a great qb and a fabulous OC should really be able to put up some nice stats eh?
                              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                              • grotonsteel
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 2810

                                Originally posted by squidkid
                                hey crash, number two in time of possession would make me a think a great qb and a fabulous OC should really be able to put up some nice stats eh?
                                well they did except in scoring. Steelers are top-5 in most of the category and top-10 in few.

                                Blame it on less offensive possession and crappy execution by the offense in red zone (Blame goes to BA, O-line,Ben, RB and WR).

                                Team with more offensive possessions has better probability to score more.
                                Steelers Draft 2015
                                Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                                Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                                Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                                Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                                Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                                Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
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