Kordell Retires as a Steeler

[Flasteel]

Saddled? So I guess it was another Kordell who sat in on interviews in 1998 and endorsed Sherman's hiring?

15 years later and nothing has changed: Kordell (nor his minions) has never accepted blame for his failures.

Yeah...saddled.

10 years of dealing with you on Steeler forums and nothing has changed. Douchebag of epic proportions.

[flippy]

Um, Ben has won 2 rings with 2 different head coaches and 2 different OCs. So Ben went through the same issues Kordell did, and still won.

Kordell admitted struggles but what he didn't do, what he has NEVER done, is accept responsibility for them.

Most of the offense's struggles last season were because we ran the ball on 58% on first down, and 65% on first down in the red zone.

What did Ben do? Not hand off properly? And the sad part? Haley's offense if you are to believe Ben, believe Pouncey, Colon, etc is that they are going to run MORE.

Along these lines, you could make the case that Kordell hasn't accepted responsibility for his on field issues like Ben hasn't accepted responsibility for his off field issues.

But I'm not going there.

I just think Kordell was what he was. He had his plusses and minuses. He did the best he could for us and I appreciate that. Good memories.

[Oviedo]

Kordell's biggest failing was that he wanted too much to prove he was a traditional pocket QB instead of embracing what made him special. Once the "slash" went away he just became another decent college QB trying to make it in the NFL.

What he could do with his legs to set up his arm is what made him special. It was never about his arm and that fact got lost the last couple of years here.

[feltdizz]

I was at that game in Tampa when he cried and I spoke to him briefly in the locker afterwards. The dude was simply dejected. I think he took things too hard as well. I also agree that he was saddled with a couple of bad OC's and never had the type of continuity I think he [in particular] needed. Despite those "flaws" Kordell will always be one of my favorite players.

I agree.... seemed like every 2 years he had a new OC.

[feltdizz]

Saddled? So I guess it was another Kordell who sat in on interviews in 1998 and endorsed Sherman's hiring?

15 years later and nothing has changed: Kordell (nor his minions) has never accepted blame for his failures.

You are hilarious...

[Slapstick]

Along these lines, you could make the case that Kordell hasn't accepted responsibility for his on field issues like Ben hasn't accepted responsibility for his off field issues.

But I'm not going there.

I just think Kordell was what he was. He had his plusses and minuses. He did the best he could for us and I appreciate that. Good memories.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

I lay a lot of the blame for the whole Kordell saga on Coach Cowher. If he had left Kordell at WR, using him occasionally in the "slash" role, I think Kordell could have been an extremely effective weapon, and we would all look back with fondness for his contributions to the team. Cowher was the one who inserted Kordell as starting, full-time QB (when it was obvious he wasn't ready for the job), and Cowher was the one who kept Kordell as his QB (long after it was painfully obvious that he shouldn't stay at QB). Also, Cowher allowed his OCs to try to turn Kordell into a pocket passer, which even 90% of fans could tell he would never be.

You can't really blame a player for wanting to play QB when he played QB in college, and then he gets to the pros, and his head coach is telling him he is starting QB material. Cowher fed Kordell's delusions. Too bad...I really believe that with a competent QB, the Steelers could have gone to another Super Bowl or two during that time period...

BTW, if Cowher had had his way, we never would have drafted Ben. For some reason, when it came to the QB position, Bill just had a tough time "getting" it. When talking about Cowher's HOF chances, I would think that his handling of the QB position might be one strike against him.

[Crash]

Yeah...saddled.

10 years of dealing with you on Steeler forums and nothing has changed. Douchebag of epic proportions.

Then don't read it.

I did notice you ignored the part about Kordell and Sherman.

We both know why.

[Crash]

Along these lines, you could make the case that Kordell hasn't accepted responsibility for his on field issues like Ben hasn't accepted responsibility for his off field issues

So Ben didn't say in 2010 that he needed to change? That he needed to treat people off the field better and with more respect?

He didn't say he needed to treat media better because they are just doing their jobs?

Kordell blames every on the field failure he had on Ray Sherman, on Kevin Gilbride, and he claimed THIS PAST SEASON, that he didn't get any more chances in the NFL after 2003 because the NFL is racist.

He's delusional and always has been.

[Crash]

You are hilarious...

Actually what I am, is right.

That's why fans turned on Kordell. He'd play a bad game and it was "We".

They'd win a game, and it was "I".

[Slapstick]

Then don't read it.

I did notice you ignored the part about Kordell and Sherman.

We both know why.

No, we don't...

Please, enlighten us....

[Crash]

No, we don't...

Please, enlighten us....

Fla like Kordell, doesn't want to admit that Kordell helped Sherman get his job. If Sherman failed Kordell, Kordell failed himself when he endorsed his hiring.

[Slapstick]

Fla like Kordell, doesn't want to admit that Kordell helped Sherman get his job. If Sherman failed Kordell, Kordell failed himself when he endorsed his hiring.

20/20 hindsight...

[Crash]

20/20 hindsight...

That's wonderful. The point is Kordell and his band of sheep don't even ADMIT to his role in getting Sherman that job.

[Slapstick]

That's wonderful. The point is Kordell and his band of sheep don't even ADMIT to his role in getting Sherman that job.

So what? Assuming that you are right, what is accomplished?